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Sieger 05-06-2018 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu (Post 316089)
Hi back to you. I would have tried Power Pistol already. If it was for sale here.:mad:

Kurusu,

Thanks!!

By the way, what bullet are you shooting and at what O.A.L.?


Sieger

kurusu 05-06-2018 05:30 PM

This was filmed by a fellow shooter in a normal training session to divulge the service pistol event in our Club page. I was not trying to prove anything or show off. They are just two slow fire 5 shot strings nothing more.

I managed 1 8 ring shot at the begining of each string.:rolleyes:

https://youtu.be/B1EPN5CBB_M

Sieger 05-06-2018 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu (Post 316089)
Hi back to you. I would have tried Power Pistol already. If it was for sale here.:mad:

COL was 1,1 with RG (Spanish brand) bullets.

Kurusu,

Congratulations on that find, as they look quite a bit like the original DWM TC bullet!!

I bet a 29mm O.A.L. would be about perfect for them!

Is their weight consistent?

Do you know if they are available in the U.S.?


Sieger

kurusu 05-06-2018 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieger (Post 316091)
Kurusu,

Thanks!!

By the way, what bullet are you shooting and at what O.A.L.?


Sieger

I already edited my first response with that info, sorry.;)

kurusu 05-06-2018 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieger (Post 316093)
Kurusu,

Congratulations on that find, as they look quite a bit like the original DWM TC bullet!!

I bet a 29mm O.A.L. would be about perfect for them!

Is their weight consistent?

Do you know if they are available in the U.S.?


Sieger

Weight was 90% consistent. I weighted each and everyone of them and tossed 10% that were either more or less than half a gr from 124.

Have no ideia if they are available in the USA, but I doubt it.

Sieger 05-06-2018 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu (Post 316092)
This was filmed by a fellow shooter in a normal training session to divulge the sevice pistol event in our Club page. I was not trying to prove anything or show off. They are just two slow fire 5 shot strings nothing more.

I managed 1 8 ring shot at the begining of each string.:rolleyes:

https://youtu.be/B1EPN5CBB_M

Kurusu,

I've seen this video in a much earlier posting here.

FANTASTIC free hand shooting with factory ammo.

Thanks for the memories!


Sieger

kurusu 05-06-2018 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieger (Post 316096)
Kurusu,

I've seen this video in a much earlier posting here.

FANTASTIC free hand shooting with factory ammo.

Thanks for the memories!


Sieger

First. I did weight those WWBs and separated those that were either too light or too heavy.:D

Second. WWB is not like that anymore.:mad:

Sieger 05-06-2018 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu (Post 316098)
First. I did weight those WWBs and separated those that were either too light or too heavy.:D

Second. WWB is not like that anymore.:mad:

Kurusu,

If available there, Vectran "AO" powder looks like a more accurate Luger powder to me.
You might give it a try.

Bullet weight variance look quite "variable" to me. This affects ultimate accuracy, as you know.


Sieger

DonVoigt 05-06-2018 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieger (Post 316090)
Don,

Please feel free comment as you would like to.

Yes, I do have many Luger fired, twenty-five yard, three-in-one-hole (defined as three shots touching) group targets as posted by me over the many years I have been posting here. Does that meet YOUR definition of one hole groups? Maybe not.

I can also hold a .45 inch group, with a Finnish Mosin, at 100 yards, with my custom loads for it.

Comments?


Sieger

Thanks for the clarification.

Three shots touching is not "one hole" , IMO. However if you define it as one hole- fine.
If measured center to center, three 9mm shots could be 0.5" or .75" or more, not 0.36" - the diameter of a 9mm round.

A .45" Moisin group is an excellent group; and would be with most anything, except maybe a .22 lr.

As is often the case, misunderstanding is based in definitions.

Groups to me are of 5 or 10 rounds, fewer is not a real test of man or equipment, again JMHO.

Sieger 05-06-2018 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 316107)
Thanks for the clarification.

Three shots touching is not "one hole" , IMO. However if you define it as one hole- fine.
If measured center to center, three 9mm shots could be 0.5" or .75" or more, not 0.36" - the diameter of a 9mm round.

A .45" Moisin group is an excellent group; and would be with most anything, except maybe a .22 lr.

As is often the case, misunderstanding is based in definitions.

Groups to me are of 5 or 10 rounds, fewer is not a real test of man or equipment, again JMHO.

Don,

I'm glad that we can agree!


Sieger

Sieger 05-06-2018 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu (Post 316098)
First. I did weight those WWBs and separated those that were either too light or too heavy.:D

Second. WWB is not like that anymore.:mad:

Kurusu,

Very sadly, I realize that :( .


Sieger

Kyrie 05-07-2018 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieger (Post 316083)
Kyrie,

Then why does STANAG 4090 state that it was, indeed, implemented, by all three branches of our Armed Forces, in June of 1986?

Sieger

Sorry Sieger, but you're seeing what you expect to see rather than what is there.

What's being 'implemented' is the acceptance of the 9 mm Luger cartridge as a US issue cartridge. The US notified NATO the USA was accepting the 9 mm cartridge the year after the Beretta model 92 was accepted as a standard US sidearm.


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