David;

LOL... How common sense can one get. I didn't think of either but it seems both would work. Thanks much, I will give that a try. I looked for the thread and will try again, not much luck in that department. Do you remember if anyone published any numbers in the thread on what they found out?

Gary

The memory banks say 10 pounds for pulling the toggles back, if the data has not been corrupted. There were pics, and all...by postino, maybe?