Hi Steve, while the data you gave me might generally be correct (byf 41, S/N 4558r), it should have Waffenamt Marks of double SE/655. This thread, however, is basically for G-Dates, made in 1935. But thanks for the thought!!

Here is Mine

G-Date-SN: 5690d
DE/63-S92-Eagle

Randy, welcome to the Luger Forum. I appreciate the data, thanks!! :)

POSTED FOR FRANK:
First of all, I want to thank all those who contributed to the G-Date Data. This graph presents the results of all the data I have been able to garner over the past several months. Reviewing the data ranges, it is obvious that some acceptance marks have openings in the data range. I have tried my best to estimate the data, but there are some areas that are open for discussion. I will try to keep any new data I can get from any source and if I can provide a more complete graph in the future, I will.

I obviously have the raw data that allowed me to make this graph. If anyone has the desire to review the raw data, please contact me and I'll be happy to provide the information!

<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/g_data_waffenamt_ranges.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/g_data_waffenamt_ranges.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

Hi Frank mine is s/42 G 8304E DE/63 DE/63.
Oliver

Oliver, thanks for the data!! While I have published the results of the study, I will continue to accumulate data. :)

Frank,

May I suggest that you open an album for this purpose in the Member Gallery and post your graph there... and whenever you update the data, you can replace the graphic to show the latest results...

Serial numer 6943d
e/63, 92, e

I trust you will enjoy this presentation and the record of past American owners.

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/gdateluger.jpg

Mark, what a nice Luger. Also, nice paper trail - especially the William S. Ruger connection - WOW. I think you have a keeper and further it extends the upper range for that combination of marks. Thanks!!

I just looked at mine.

G date S/42 7449c W154 S92 DE

Rob.

Hello Mr. Applegate!! Thanks for the data on your G-Date. It is most appreciated!

:)

Frank, SN 4548d is stamped with DE/211 and S-92
<a href="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/4548d.JPG" target="_fullview"><img src="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/4548d.JPG" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>
<a href="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/DE211S92G.JPG" target="_fullview"><img src="http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/DE211S92G.JPG" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

Thor, thanks much for the data!! It is appreciated. :)

Hi Frank,
Here is my G date serial number 8735c ( it looks like c) E/154 and S92 matching mag with E/154
I hope this will help.

Hi Frank,
Here is my G date 8735c(it looks like a c)
W154 and S 92
Matching mag with E/154.
Hope this will help

Frank,
My G date is 3514c and is W154 and S92.
Mag doesn't match. Fits right in your graph.
Tom

Alfred and Tom, thanks much for the data. Even though your pistols fall nicely into the graphical results, the data is useful in making estimates for extending the data into the "gray" areas.

:)

Here's a couple 3770a B90 S-91,and 1849c w154 s-92. Hope it helps.

Hi Danny, all data is most appreciated. The more data, the better the results. This is especially true for the range for each Waffenamt Mark.

Hate to be late Frank, but mine is 9599 "d". DE63 DE63 DE. Also looking for a matching magazine.

Hi Doc, it's never too late!! Thanks, I appreciate the data. Good luck with your magazine hunt!!

Hi Mark,

Just a minor point...but there is one more Owner in the string of ownership of your very nice G-date...you are not the 3rd. owner, but the 4th. owner.

* Original German soldier
* Major Brown
* Lt. Rugar
* Current owner (...you)

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Please Pete, in purist terms, we are just the current caretakers of these historical gems. There will be caretakers after us, never owners.

Frank

I have a "G" code serial number 8452b
Acceptance marks are W|154 and S-92

Thanks Greg! I appreciate your data!!

G code 2589E with DE/63 and DE/63

Glenn,
Being a new member, you wouldn't likely be aware of the fact that our good friend Frank Manders, who initiated this study, has passed away . I do not know if any of the other members had continued his study of 'G' date proof marks.
Lyn

Very sorry to hear that, my apologies.

I thought it would be an interesting study, and I tried to list the serials & waffenamts from this thread. Unfortunately, I have only seen only one 'G' date Luger, and some of the ambiguous replies here were certainly known to Frank but I have no clue. Plus, I'm sure Frank had more data not shown in this thread, and possibly more replies from Still's forum.

Ed's graph doesn't show up here, so no idea what that indicates. :(

If anyone is interested, here is what I got from this thread, keeping in mind that I have no idea what these marks mean...


G-Date Waffenamt Marks

Hi Guys, I [Frank Manders] am asking all with G-Dates for a little assistance. First we know there were about 55,000 of these little jewels made. There are six combinations of waffenamt marks, the most of any other Third Reich Luger. I have been compiling lists, trying to establish the serial number range for each set of marks.

These marks are:

B|90 and S-91
B|90 and S-92
W|154 and S-92
DE/211 and S-92
DE/63 and S-92
DE/63 and DE/63


Serial Waffenamt


8628 a W|154 - S-92 - Eagle
8752 d DE/63 - DE/63 - Eagle
7895C W154, S92
2154d E/211 S-92
3278d E/211 S-92
2508e de/63 de/63
808b w154 s92
6008e DE/63, DE/63, Eagle
1131-d 211 S|92
5745e two D/63's
70f DE63 DE63 Eagle
1504b W154 S92 Eagle
8846 b W154, S92
3000a B90/S91
6109a B90/S92
6035 f DE/63 DE/63
6032e DE/63 DE/63
8069d dw63 dw 63
1989f D/E63 & D/E63
6669c W-154 & S/92
5690d DE/63-S92
8304E DE/63 DE/63
6943d e/63, 92
7449c W154 S92
4548d DE/211 and S-92
8735c W154 and S 92
3514c W154 and S92
3770a B90 S-91
1849c w154 s-92
9599 "d" DE63 DE63
8452b W|154 and S-92
2589E DE/63 and DE/63

Again, I wish I knew more about 'G' date Mauser Lugers, but it's too late for me to learn. Maybe a dedicated 'G' date aficionado could carry Frank's work on... :thumbup:

Edit: Snagged some from Still's site, may be some dupes...

4249a B90, S91
7466a W154, S92
8628a W154, S92
539b W154, S92
7622c W154, S92
943d DE/211, S92
2741d DE/211, S92
3176d DE/211, S92
4003d DE/211, S92
4437d DE/211, S92
200e DE/63, DE/63
3823e DE/63, DE/63
2043f DE/63, DE/63
2927f DE/63, DE/63
9236b W154 - S92
2971e DE63 DE63
5102aB|90 & S-91
4190a B90 S91
7211a W154 S92
735b W154 S92
3705e DE63 DE63
9491e DE63 DE63
1689f DE63 DE63
2736c W154 S92
8096d DE/63--DE63
9602e DE/63--DE63
4991e DE/63 DE/63
7328c W154 S92

I have heard that all his paperwork and research was put into someones hands.
No idea who or whom - I'd love for it to be forwarded to me, I'd scan it all in and send it back.

There is a thread by Frank on Still's forum about 'G-Date Waffenamt Interim Report' , but the attachment has been lost... :(

http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...Interim-Report

ohhh my Gosh, jus sayin

Perhaps G.T. would know who was the beneficiary of Frank Mander's database information? I will PM him to find out... They lived in close proximity to each other... I was blessed to have to opportunity to have lunch with Frank the last I was in Phoenix... He is sorely missed here.