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Just to suppliment, I recently purchased a pristene us test luger,Serial Number, #6786, Im purchasing the matching, Springfield armory holster next month, Just email eric at 'SNOOKEM13@AOL.COM' Ill send you nice closeups or any particular parts you so desire.

another post-stroke brainfart, the correct holster im acquiring is 'ROCK ISLAND ARSENAL' oops sorry

eRIC, iI dont think it ever was. Simular to a commerative coin, Ill have the correct u.s.holster next month, I would be proud to provide our friends, closeups, Its a real beauty,SNOOKEM13@AOL.COM, OR CALL 772-336-5312, GOD BLESS

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For splendid closeups of individual parts of this american histoy, just send an email to me eric, esq at 'snookem13@aol.com' I have a beautiful blowup, of the American Eagle, or Phone me 772-336-5312,

hi, Mr Balder, I finally received it last week,It astound me how a luger or any firearm, for that matter, could survive without a blemish, Next month i will own the equal in condition the matching luger, Im told the holster was fult to find, Please send me an email for the close'ups including a magnificant Eagle, I will gladly share any pictures that you desire, Im recovery from shoulder surgery on monday, but i always felly enthusiastics (772)336-5312, thank you all

Mike I would be glad to Email you or any interster member, great closeups, and will photogragh and particular part, like the differences of sites in the 1900 models, Thank for your interest,

tHANK for your observaion, i agee there is no evidence of firing, or handling This is more evident in closeup ive taken,If you or any reader desire any closeup at all, please send me and email, Eric 'snookem13@aol.com' tks

Eric,

I would think that other members also would like to see the gun and the holster, maybe you can post some pictures here for all of us to enjoy? I'm sure the moderators can help posting.

Balder

Mr Balder,I not your from the netherlands, We came accross a surrendered luger from the Commander of the Oslo Gestopo, I have allot of research and information, from a Major Cantebury, who was commader of the Air Force, to who, the Luger was surrender,After surrendering, he and his adjunt officer sat on a crait of explosive, blowing himself up, for fears of war crimes, we was directly under heydrick, If you or anyones was to see the documents or reasech e-me eric, esq. at 'snookem13@aol.com

Eric,

Interesting story about the Luger. Chief of SS and German police in Norway was Wilhelm Rediess who had his base in Oslo. He shot himself on May 8 1945. Reichskommisar Josef Terboven (the German head honcho in Norway) committed suicide later the same day by blowing himself and the body of Rediess up with a crate of explosives. I guess this is the incident you are referring to.

The chief of Gestapo in Oslo was Siegfried Fehmer who was captured, sentenced to death and executed on March 16 1948.

In any event I find it a bit unlikely that either were carrying a Luger, all pictures I've seen of them and other high-ranking German officers in Norway show that they preferred small caliber pistols, usually Mauser HSc and Walther PPK.

BTW, Heydrich was killed in a hit by Czech patriots in June 1942.

I appreciate your offer of access to your material, I'd like to pick you up on that in due course.

Regards,

Balder

eric, I recently purchased this test luger, from the same noted individual, who sold me a pristene, 1920 luger carbine in 9mm with accompaning aberchrombie a fitch leather carrying case, i also purchase the 1906 frech luger, I would gladly furnish photographs an information, regurdine my favorite and would encourage others to share their gifts from our past Eric Bruning, Esq 'snookem13@aol.com'

Eric, If you what some nice closeeups, including 'the Great Seal' Please send me an email, Next week i will take receipt of the accompaning us test holster, just drop me a line 'snookem13@aol.com' I thank Ed and Ted for their support,

balder, i woul love to send you photographs and letters of documentation, When the luger found it han to Major Cantebury he wrote a letter that came with the gun outlining its history, and we used ??? as target practice, ill send these few historical pages to anyone who sends me an email, or provies their adress, Thank you, my fellow historian 'snookem13@aol.com

Happy Easter All, and God Bless.

One needs to be somewhat cautious about minty looking US Test Eagles.

Here are photos of two (2) guns (# 6885 and # 7018) in the Springfield Armory museum collection.

They certainly look like they went through the Trials :

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/test_6885.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/test_7018.jpg

Both of those guns were on Mike Reese's original list. Since then #6885 has shown up at the Tulsa show in 2005 (price tag $3950).

Ron,

# 6885 is still on the SA Museum web site which has regular updates.

Do you think the museum folks released it for sale and it was re-sold at Tulsa ?

I have no idea Pete. I do not even know if it sold at Tulsa.

Eric, where can i find the 'SA MUSEUM' web site?

Eric,

Here is a link. You enter "luger" into the search window to bring up the Lugers (photos and description and some history of each gun) in their collection :

http://www.museum.nps.gov/spar/wordsearch.htm

BTW...you might find this discussion topic over on Jan's Gun Boards an interesting read as well. It deals with one gun in the SA Museum collection and its importance to four 7-shot Lugers that have appeared in the USA.

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11236

Hi Ron,

I have sent a written inquiry to the SA Museum folks to see if they still report Luger # 6885 (TE) in their current inventory or not.

Replies take a week or two. Will report what I find out.

I want to thank you guys, You make life so interesting,all of You!!

How do you use the Springfiel Arsenel search base? Im having no luck, eric

Eric,

On the page link I referred you to...look for the empty or blank "window"...type in the word "luger' and click the bar labeled "search" just below that. The lugers will pop up shortly after you click on "search".

Thank you so much, im a little slow since my stoke and coma, in Costa Rico, four years ago.

Hi Ron,

Recieved a nice note from the S.A. Museum folks regarding their # 6885 M1900 AE Test Luger.

Reckon some "forgery" made its way to the Tulsa show...???

The Museum folks indicate their # 6885 has been in their collection since :

" Weapon transferred to the Museum on 31 May 1926 "

" Dear Sir,

I can assure you that SPAR-865, sn# 6885, is still here. In fact, we just completed the inventory. I canÃ¢??t explain the Tulsa gun.

I do want to thank you for informing us.

Note: In order to see the Springfield Armory collection fully updated, you now have to go to www.museum.nps.gov . This site has recently been updated and the next scheduled update will be sometime in January, 2007.

The National Park Service is proud to be able to offer our new Park Pass.
The Pass is a great value. It allows our neighbors to see the wonderful diversity of National Parks around the country while at the same time helping the Springfield Armory National Historic Site fund projects that improve the visitors experience within the park. The National Parks Pass will be sold for $80 at The Springfield Armory National Historic Site and at other parks around the country, and online at www.nationalparks.com and toll free at 1-888-GO-PARKS.

The Springfield Armory Museum is divided into two thematic areas. Each area has changing and permanent exhibits, machinery, and video stations with computer generated graphics. The Ã¢??Armory IndustryÃ¢?Â area presents the story of important inventions and inventors. Visitors become familiar with the "American System of Manufacture," the Blanchard Lathe, and the Lyle Ã¢??life savingÃ¢?Â gun. Armory machines and other inventions dramatically advanced the mass production of consumer products like keys, shoes, baseball bats, and furniture.

The Ã¢??Armory ArmsÃ¢?Â area presents the story of U.S., Confederate and foreign shoulder arms, edged weapons, and pistols. The story begins with a 14th century hand cannon and ends with modern machine guns. Visitors come from around the world to see our NationÃ¢??s best collection of experimental U.S.
military arms and the "Organ of Muskets" made famous by the Henry Wadsworth Longfellow poem, "The Arsenal at Springfield." Armory weapons were essential in all major conflicts in U.S. history. The museum collection contains many firsts and lasts, including over 100 arms with serial # 1.

If you would like more specific information, please contact us at the above address, otherwise e-mail us at www.nps.gov/spar or by telephone (413) 734-8551, or fax (413) 747-8062. Visit our Web site to research the firearm collection at www.museum.nps.gov , check out our Ã¢??Calendar of EventsÃ¢?Â or read more about the history of Springfield Armory.

I hope this has been of some help.

Sincerely

s/John McCabe
Collections Curator "

Ron,

Do you recall who was selling the "other" # 6885 at Tulsa ?

Besides a Holster and ammunition, were there any other accessories, such as a marked takedown tool, distributed, I trying to finish my, Test Display, finished. Eric at 'snookem13@aol.com.

When I went to the site as linked by Pete, I clicked to enlarge the photo for the catalog # SPAR 858. In the collection depicted is a short barrel Luger with a shoulder stock attached.

Any comments? Is this evidence that non arty or Navy pistols used stocks?

Hi Rod,

Is sure would be nice to find a WWI-era photo with a stocked 4" Luger in a German soldier's hands.

If "necessity if the mother of invention", I can easily see a soldier trying a wooden stock on a short-barrelled Luger especially if others tell him how it has improved their shooting accuracy with a 6" or 8" Luger with a stock. But it would be nice to see such a period-photo for any "proof".

The SA museum folks will give you info, (if you email them) to see if the gun and stock came into their collection as a set or whether the "assemblage" resulted when the curator wanted to set up the display. Their acquistion of the gun and stock may have just come to them that way from a collector in the 1920's that decided to buy the pair together (and when it was not illegal in the USA to do so...).

Photo Rod mentions...

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/spar_858_photo.jpg

Hi, Pete, it came to me later than my post that I could check this out and I will try to do so with the museum folks later.

Yes, I want that photo evidence you mention. I think it's ridiculous we have to go through those hoops, but....

I have no doubt that this short barrel and stock combo was tried and not just once by the men at arms.

There is an outside chance that that stocked short barrel Luger is a Finnish gun...but I still do not think that combo has been exempt by the BATFE.

I'm not an expert, Ron, as you know, but I don't think so either.

I being Polish/German, was wondering if any Polish lugers have ever surfaced, And what is the rarest luger varient available today?

I don't know of any Polish type Lugers but am sure that if you publicize an interest in such a gun one will appear.

Gentlemen,

I am moving up this old thread, which I originally started back in January 2003. I wonder if anybody is still onto that Springfield trail of the US test Luger serial range that came up in the thread? Ron?

Balder

balder, I know do a collector or three who are very interested, myself is one of them...