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former173rd 07-22-2017 04:21 AM

I'll double check that...thanks.

kurusu 07-22-2017 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tharpo (Post 305719)
Gun serial number 6000q, inside sideplate #60. Does not fit the "rule" but there is no reason to think that the sideplate is not original. I think Mauser did this numbering for their own purposes and not for us collectors.

I tend to agree. My byf 41 also has the 2 first digits of the serial number inside the sideplate.

DonVoigt 07-22-2017 09:38 AM

Recently in another thread, the topic of Mauser "inside" side plate numbers was discussed.

There are many examples of the side plate having the "same" first two digits of the serial number, and as many or more with the first two (+1).

I agree with Tharpo, Mauser did this according to their own "rule", not ours. I totally agree that this is highly likely to be the original side plate. JMHO.

Using the frist two digits "+1" never made sense to me, and still does not- though I could conjure up a reason if I thought long enough. ;)

Eugen 07-22-2017 10:30 AM

Hmmm...attenpting to decifer the reasoning behind their numbering system is causing my head to hurt. :confused:

mrerick 07-22-2017 11:23 AM

Mauser examples are seen with the inside number of the side plate the first digits themselves and the first digits plus 1. Both are known to occur.

This numbering related to the manufacturing processes inside the Mauser plant.

I would not be concerned with finding "60" or "61" inside this pistol's side plate.

former173rd 07-22-2017 11:45 AM

Hope everyone has a great weekend, and I really appreciate the input from you one other concern is the color of the small parts . I have heard that it is wrong. My research indicates they are Ok, but another source says otherwise. Have I got a "dud"?

Sergio Natali 07-22-2017 11:49 AM

I've been following this thread right from the start, and it was great to see the old members trying to help a newbee; anyway back to the point, first I wanted to welcome you to our forum, and second... I wanted to suggest you to think twice before you sell it, it's a nice luger, and perhaps if you'll keep it would be a good way to start your own collection.

Regards.

tharpo 07-22-2017 12:18 PM

The color of the small parts are correct for a 41 byf.
Is the "s" shaped link under the rear of the toggles blued or in the white? It is normally in the white.

Ron Wood 07-22-2017 12:25 PM

I do not find any fault in legitimate questioning of obvious discrepancies of a given Luger. However, I think this really excellent example is perilously close to a "death by a thousand cuts". Come on guys, I admit that I am in no way an expert on these WWII vintage Lugers, but common sense would seem to rule that this exemplary piece is legitimate and does not deserve to be nitpicked to death.
Ron

former173rd 07-22-2017 01:34 PM

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Thats encouraging ...tharpo, since my eyes aren't the best, so here are couple of photo....you can tell better than me!
Again, I appreciate all of the patience and education from the forum.

former173rd 07-22-2017 01:39 PM

I also relooked the inside of the sideplate for the numbers. Well, first they are hard to read, but because of the SN, the 2 digits could be 60... or 00..looks like machining marks over part of the numbers.

kurusu 07-22-2017 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by former173rd (Post 305737)
Hope everyone has a great weekend, and I really appreciate the input from you one other concern is the color of the small parts . I have heard that it is wrong. My research indicates they are Ok, but another source says otherwise. Have I got a "dud"?

The colour of the small on your pistol is consistent with it's production year.

former173rd 07-22-2017 01:45 PM

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Thought I'd do the bolt face while its apart. Can't see any carbon residue!

Sonofeugene 07-22-2017 03:16 PM

Don't assume a gun smith will know how to take it apart and put it back together. If they've not worked on Lugers, find someone that has experience. It's not difficult but ther are things that can go wrong if you don't know what you're doing. Like breaking off that bit of the left grip just behind the safety. Or losing the tiny spring for the take down toggle.

DonVoigt 07-22-2017 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by former173rd (Post 305747)
Thought I'd do the bolt face while its apart. Can't see any carbon residue!

I would not expect to see any carbon residue, and brass transfer only if shot a lot.

Yours does not look to have been fired much at all.

kurusu 07-22-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by former173rd (Post 305747)
Thought I'd do the bolt face while its apart. Can't see any carbon residue!

If you really want to have an assessment of the use your pistol saw. Get us some pictures (preferably better than my hasty ones :rolleyes:) of the same areas I am showing.

Note. These pictures are from my byf that has been used in competition for the last 20 years. So, that is what heavily used looks like. :rolleyes:

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former173rd 07-22-2017 10:36 PM

Thanks Kurusu, I'll get them out tomorrow...maybe try to use my camera vs iphone. Guess I need to put together an album for the sale listing..
I hope I never have to go through this again. Might as well be trying to sell a spacecraft!

DavidJayUden 07-23-2017 12:07 AM

I think you are being bogged down in minutia. Just write the ad, mention this thread, then add a couple of general photos. It's not all that big of a deal, PM me if you need help.
dju

former173rd 07-23-2017 04:09 AM

Thanks David, I just may take you up on that.

former173rd 07-25-2017 01:51 PM

Listed for sale here and GB. Thanks to everyone for your time, wisdom, and assistance. The knowledge base here is amazing!.
John


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