Ron, I just looked up NRA's Firearm Assembly Guide (which I used to disassemble that revolver). Security Six has 60 parts!! Later on, a local gunsmith assembled it back for me, he found a few parts were missing (I accidentally dropped clipboard box containing the parts on floor once. I thought I picked up everything....) Parts plus labor, I paid him $80.

NRA's guide is well written on disassembling. On putting it back, it simply says "reverse the procedure".... Lord.

You're exactly right and I do know how a Glock works, but what you said in your previous post was that you won't lose any time manipulating the safety on a Glock, you just pull it and shoot it. What I'm saying is that if you don't use the safety on a gun that has one, you won't lose any time either. Just like you said about the Glock, you just pull it and shoot it. In other words: My point is that if you want to compare how safe and quick the Glock is compared with other guns, you need to compare them as being in at least somewhat similar condition. And I sure hope that the "bad cops" you're talking about don't carry their guns "cocked and unlocked"... :eek:

By the way: The only good thing about the Glock trigger is that it's consistent. On the other hand, it's also consistently rough, gritty and almost toy-like, and a buddy of mine compared it with rolling a box up a hill that has a sudden drop where you least expect it. This is of course an exaggerated tounge-in-cheek comment but personally, I can shoot much better with a heavier and longer trigger pull as long as it's smooth.

My comment to your post was actually in agreement with what you said, what I wanted to point out is that Glock is not as safe as people say it is unless you are well trained on this particular gun. If a gun requires a lot of training and practice to be operated in a safe manner, I would say that it's less safe than guns that require less training and practice. There is a place and a use for Glocks, but it's still too easy for private gun owners to think that Glocks are superior because so many LEO's use them. I guess my bottom line is that I'm afraid that too many fall in that trap.

I was trying to be facetious. my bad

Well now, that should get a few responses. I think i will hold off on that one.

off topic - this world would be much better without guns. everyone would get along and there would be no fighting or death. If there was conflict it could be resolved by talking instead of war mongering. guns are the reason for all that is wrong with the world today. We should all smoke some medicinal marijuana and recycle our guns to build shelters for 3rd world countries.Only police and criminals should have firearms. :P

Skye..If this is a quote by some moron you should really add their name so it won't be attributed to you.

This is exactly my biggest problem with the Glock.
Maybe if I shot it more I'd get more used to it, but compared to my favorite, the Browning HP, it requires a lot more effort to hold it on target during rapid fire.
The Glock is not a bad gun by any means, but it has characteristics that make it unappealing to many people.

Wait somebody really said that?

I did. sarcastically- my apologies if anyone was offended or taken aback didnt think it was a big deal , Ill be in the for sale section from now on :)

No thats fine I thought it was pretty funny just couldnt find where it was posted.

Couldn't resist
 

Best Glock Commercial

http://www.youtube.com/embed/vsVCHE7ayPE?rel=0

That is one rediculous commercial! In the real World when the guy popped up from behind the counter he would have been flying to Valhalla in a hailstorm of lead. I don't know where they would find Police Officers with that kind of restraint.

Not sure about Anton Glock, but his wife is very very hot. Whips and chains. That is why Glock is Hottt.

Restraint
 

Texas... amongst many other places:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF3zH38viPA

Here's my favorite 1911 commercial:
(TURN OFF SOUND IF LITTLE GUYS ARE AROUND)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COgjGtaiXIw

Jack

I like this one http://www.dialoginternational.com/d...st-export.html , over the weekend i have had four people ask if i still had the glock forsale, they were looking to buy one.

I carry a S&W J frame in .38 Special. I like it because it will fit in my pocket. I also have a Glock 26 and I hated it before I put the mag extender on! My fingers would just hang off and it didn't feel good. Now it is just fine. I'm still a little hesitant to carry the Glock just because it does not have a safety and I really don’t want an accidental discharge.

and I thought I was the only one that thought they are butt ugly!

jerry

Some may shoot me 'pun intended', but I would say I despise the Glock pistol.
I don't know if it comes from all my M1911 love. I don't know if it's just 'too' generic a design for me. I know they work well and have a certain degree of reliability.
Just.
Don't.
Like.

I'm an old school kinda guy. I love steel and wood, and while plastic may be ok for kitchen utensils, I have no love for the combat Tupperware. A Glock, to me, is like a hammer or screwdriver. It does it's intended job, and you put it back in the toolbox. There is a certain mechanical ingenuity , but absolutely NO aesthetic attraction to a Glock. In that sense, I guess it is aperfect VolksPistole and symbol of our time, mass produced, soulless and least-common-denominator driven. It appeals to those shooters who are just starting out, or who have knolwdge of guns only gained from Hollywood. I really don't know and cannot fathom the deep sense of loyalty that a lot of people have for these things, but that is fine. I will continue to acquire and shoot my Pythons, 1911's, Hi Powers, and now, Lugers. My son, who is 15 is just starting to become truly interested in the history of various firearms, told me that the historic guns are important because "they are history you can carry and stop bad guys with". That has a nice ring to it, I think.

You are probably preaching to the choir here. I've never owned or even fired one and if I die sans Glock that will be just fine with me. But, having said that, Glock owners say that they just simply work. Dead nuts reliable. And there is something to be said for that. Bur I see it like riding an old British motorcycle. It's not just about getting somewhere, but it is also about the journey along the way.
Of course my answer might be different if someone is shooting at me...
dju

Glocks are what they are tools, they work and now from what i read they have 62 percent of the law enforecement market. so they are doing something right. It maybe advertising? Once glock gets those quantity police dept orders it sometimes just snowballs and like we have said they do work. I own several of them . Actualy the gun you do not mind putting through the mud and the muck, it's not going to hurt the looks of it anyway.

I have a friend who owns a Glock in 9mm and they are reliable, I will give them that. We only see each other once a year (we go back to junior high school) and we always make it a point to go to the range (a Luger owner and a Glock owner) and trade off every so often whilst we're in the shooting lane. It's not a bad pistol and I enjoy shooting a Glock but they sure are not meant to look elegant! I think he owns it because it's reliable and easy to clean/field strip. He likes my Luger but he finds the Glock is less picky with ammo and parts and he wouldn't be broken-hearted as much if the Glock just stopped one day. To him, it's a tool which makes a good day at the range rather than a piece which is collectible.

Honestly quoted for reading my mind :cool:

I do not own one just for the reason everyone and their brother(my brother has several, duty actually makes him carry one), has, wants or knows about them.
I hate fads and being a follower or owning or wanting something just cause everyone else has one.
It bothers me, its like the AK. You tell someone 2 years ago I have a Daniel Defense M4 v3((now they sorta made a name) and they say a what the heck...is that like a AK or something? Or tell them you have a M28/76, they have no idea. They have no appreciation for a well made accurate rifle.
But tell them you have a AK-47 they go all crazy,...but careful, get specific Romanian, Yugo, Norinco, MAK, etc. you lost them again.

Some of the Gen 4's I think it is, have spring issues...or had. They are great Austrian made guns, but not the best of the best or really for me.

I'll add what others have said:

They are highly reliable.

At a reasonable price tag.

The "Hollywood and Police effect".

They are very, very simple; like in 5 main pieces-that's it!

They are accurate.

They are "modular" (many calibers and aftermarket accessories).

Everyone knows what they are.

Duty makes me carry one too. I like the Hk USP series better myself and I would pay the extra hundred bucks for the USP's.

I have a Glock 30 for CCW and it is a nice little gun that shoots where I aim. It cost around $500 so if it gets confiscated I will not feel bad. I was doing training once and used a different gun with a thumb safety which I kept in the off position. During one timed round my safety was on and I did not make a single shot. The gun did not go bang when I pulled the trigger and the hesitation caused the time to expire. That is why I carry a Glock. I also consider a good holster part of the safety requirements.

jerry

My uncles county makes them carry a Glock now(they use to be able to carry anything they wanted so long as armory approved and checked it out)
My brother is made to carry one on duty in his area.

My close friend department makes them carry H&K USP(he was detective, now shift supervisor), issues them USP C's and that is the nicest handgun ever, I love it.

My favorite USP is the USP45c. I have one that I had the hammer converted to the "spurred hammer" variant. Then I switched the floorplates out from the flat floorplates to the extended floorplates. Made it one heck of smaller variant USP. I hate those darn "smooth hammers" on the USP compact series, but love the gun. Luckily the conversion is there from Hk or I would have probably dismissed the entire USPc series.

I guess my next favorite USP is the USP9f's. I have three of those with a bunch of 15 round mags. I again replaced all the flat floorplates on the mags with the extended floorplate mags.

The extended floorplates just make the grip on these better. :jumper:

I don't mind the Glock 22 that my Department issues me. It's worked just fine, but I prefere the Hk's.

Unparalleled reliability, high accuracy (for those who are trained) and decent price point, in the most stressful of situations they will always perform and that's why they are my defense guns...

I remember the following that the Volkswagen Beetle had in the late 60's. I always thought they were butt ugly and the engine had a weird wimpy sound when they drove by you. I wouldn't get caught dead riding in one let alone buy one. On the other hand, people said they were pretty reliable, very easy to work on & the parts were interchangeable for years as the body style & engine parts remained unchanged.

Well, now here's the Glock. It's butt ugly, very lightweight, almost too light by many peoples standards. But, like the VW Beetle, it's reliable, very easy to work on & the parts including the mags are pretty interchangeable. Thus, like the Beetle, it has a loyal following.

I do own a Glock 19. Why did I buy it? A state police officer in my reserve unit said, "buy a Glock, you'll own that gun your whole life & probably never replace a part." I enjoy shooting it but I do prefer the weight of an all steel gun. I've shot the full size Beretta 9mm's in the Navy & qualified as an expert shot with some high scores & I believe it's partly because of the weight of the pistol. I shoot great with a heavy steel pistol as it seems to cut down on recoil & helps me line up my next shot quick. Also, I can hold a heavy pistol more steady in my hand then a lightweight one.