Hi Dav,
Thank you for the help.
Your Mauser Parabellum is a real early production. Your gun is the 821st Mauser Parabellum made.
I would like to know if the double dot pattern (11.00.xxxx) is available on both the complete serial numbers present on the pistol or only for the serial number on the frame.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Mauro

The serial numbers read as follows.
Slide 11 001821
Frame 11.00.1821

"FBM" on a few places also.

Now my gun was #821 or #1821??

Mauro,

The Mauser Parabellum I just bought won't be here till tomorrow or the day after, but the number is:
11.014264 , numbers match.
This is a 6" non-Swiss style grip with the American Eagle, but I'm guessing you already knew that.
I would appreciate anything you can tell me about it, but I knew you want to keep track of these, so there it is.

Dav,
Your gun has a dual dot pattern serial number. This is tipical of the first production. In fact before Mauser made the frames and they are marked with the old dual dot patter. Then, for any reason, the dual don patter was not usd anymore but, of course, the "old" frame were used.
The first commercial 29/70 in 9mm is numbered 11.001001 therefore your pistol is the 821st made by Mauser.

David, thank you for the info.
When you receive the gun please let us know fi si dated or if you have the test target dated.
Cheers,
Mauro

Mauro,

I received nothing but the gun and magazine. No box, papers or target.

Any idea what year this was made?

Now I'm really confused:
How does 11.014264 minus 11.001001 become 821?

Hi David,
I was replying to another David that posted before you (pistol with serial number 11.00.1821).
I guess you understand how manage the Mauser serial number. It is enought keeping in mind that the first pistol is number 1001.
For the .30 luger the first pistol is numbered 10.001001 for the 9mm 11.001001. Therefore 10 codifies the .30luger pistol and 11 the 9mm.
Have fun
Mauro

So mine would the number 13,263?

Ya
:cheers:

Any idea what year 13,263 (11.014264) was made?

I will say 1973/74

Thanks Mauro.

Looking for a little info on this interarms luger. It has a 6'' barrel, 9mm, american eagle, grip safety and is in a Mauser leatherete box with the target, extra mag, cleaning rod , brush and tool in new condition. #11.012083. Does anyone know values and how many of these were sold with the fancy box? David Still seeking information.

Hello Mauro, I own a Swiss frame 9MM 4 inch in perfect condition. The serial number is 11.006776. I believe it is from the 1972 manufacturing year. I also have the box but nothing else. perhaps you can add this one to your data base.
Cordially, Craig

Craig,
is your 29/70 Mauser Parabellum marked on the frame?
I am trying to figure out when Mauser stop selling Parabellum with this marking.
Cheers,
Mauro

I have a 9mm, 6 inch barrel, Swiss type, marked 11.00297x and 11.00.297x. Looks like early production, pistol number 197x, if I'm reading correctly. One more Interarms Mauser Parabellum checking in here.:)

Gene

Hi Gene,
Thank you for sharing your serial number. It shall be useful for my database mainly if you let me know the last digit :cheers:

Have fun
Mauro

Mauro, I too have one to share with you. It's 11.006970, Swiss type with a 4" bbl. Do you have any idea when it was made? It's not dated nor do I have any of the accessories to get the date from... :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...de11006970.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...de11006970.jpg

Might as well live dangerously.;)

11.002974
11.00.2974

Gene

LOL!! :D

Hi Gene,
your pistol has been made in the 1970-71. Maybe you can post some pictures to see the configuration. Do you have the dated test target?
Gene, most probably your pistol shows the serial number on the frame with a double dot and the serial number on the receiver with only a dot.
The frame should have the Mauser Parabellum mark without the caliber.
Just shoot a photo in this way we can evaluate.

Steve your Parabellum has been made in 1972.

Enjoy your Mauser Parabellum.
Ciao
Mauro

Thank you, Sir! :D

Mauro,

Thank you for the information. I don't have a digital camera, but tried to get some photos today with a brother-in-law, so might have photos later if they were okay. Photos were taken in a hurry in a car so they might not be good.

On the left side the pistol is marked "Mauser Parabellum" and underneath that is "9mm Luger". Oval FBM marking. On the right side there is a serial just above the trigger (on frame?) of 11.00.2974. Above that (on receiver?) is the serial as 11.002974, with only one decimal point. Alongside the top serial is the Interarms sun and "INTERARMS" and "ALEXANDRIA.VIRGINIA". "Made in Germany" on back of frame. Toggle has "Original MAUSER" banner marking. American eagle marking on top of chamber. "9mm Luger" marking on top of barrel with a oval FBM marking. On front gripstrap there is the marking "MAUSER-WERKE A.G. Oberndorf a.N." Mauser banner marked magazine.

I don't have the test target, box or anything else. Is this type of pistol called a 29/70?

Hi Gene,
Many thanks for the info.
Don't warry for the pics, if you are able to have them ok otherwise your description in good enought.

Your Mauser Parabellum is a 29/70 model. The fact that there is a different pattern used for the serial number on the frame and on the receiver is because in the beginning Mauser decided to use a double dot pattern and therefore several frames have been stamped in this way.
Then Mauser decided to use a one dot pattern and so the two dots frames were used in combination with the "one dot receiver" until the frame stock finished.
In other words, your frame belongs to the first stock made by Mauser.

Have fun.
Mauro

Mauro,

Again, thank you for the information. I've had the pistol for about twenty years, but did not know it was made in 1970/71 or that it was called a 29/70. Always good to learn something.:cool:

Gene

So, let me get this straight... my Interarms model is marked FBM,
110012XX... which means, I think that this means that my model (a 9mm) is the 200th or so gun built, so probably 1970, right? As I recall, the first 100 were special editions...

Thanks...;)

Yes,
You are right.
Please do you mind post pictures? You gun is a early production.
Cheers,
Mauro

Hi,

I am new here.
Hope someone can give me more info on this weapon.
What is a likely date of manufacture what is the value?
Seller says bore is perfect, pistol is perfect, blue is perfect, only the grip safety has some loss of blue.
Seller did not give me the serial number.

Thanks in advance

Fred

Well, it's post 1972 but we cannot give a detailed date without the serial number.
If the gun has the antler Ulm proof mark, a year code either in letters or numbers should be present.
Most likely it's a 1973 pistol.

Value also depends on box, accessories, test target, manual, etc... being present.

Hello Fred,
Your pistol is a so called 06/73 model.
Without serial number it is difficult to estimate when it has been produced but most of them have been made in the 1973-1975 timeframe.
You can see some of them for sale with the related price in the Simpson web site (see link & resources).

Have fun,
Mauro

Fred,

grips on this one look much nicer grain and color than most Ive seen

recent auctions for these P08 frame MP on gunbroker have been $1000-$1200 , the $1000 after redo auction price reduction sold and was a 30 cal 6"

Bill

Seller tells me Serial is 11014xxx
No box, Test target, just nothing exept for the two magazines.
He wants 1300$ is that over the top?
Some more pictures:

i have two interarms lugers--9mm 11.0026XX and 30 cal 10.0051XX. theri am looking at
 

some others that might become available.

edit edit edit..should say my two appear to have
 

only been fired for the tests. i am looking at others that may become available. sorry for the fat-fingers in the previous post...tom

Data on my Mauser Parabellum
 

I have a model 29/70 Mauser Parabellum in .30 luger caliber with serial number 10.002317 and 6 inch barrel. It also has the FBM marking. In 2001 I e-mailed Mauser to ask when this pistol was made. I received a one line reply from Otto Repa which said "The Mauser Parabellum was sold in March 1971 to Interarms." I also have the original box, test target and the spare magazine and cleaning brush. (My wife surprised me with this gun as a Christmas present-she paid $625!) I hope this info helps those of you who are completing a serial number database.

Ed Hanson

Oops!
 

I just realized that I have already posted info about my Mauser Parabellum! Sorry for the repeat episode! (They say that the mind goes first!)

Ed

I have a Swiss pattern 6" in 9mm!
 

I bought a Mauser/Interarms Swiss Pattern with 6" barrel in the 9mm caliber from FGS Inc.

I heard these new 1970's production Mauser Parabellums had a slightly different grip configuration that the standard Lugers.

Is that true and in what way do they differ from the originals?:confused:

HKMan,

The Mauser Parabellum can be found with 2 different frame configurations, the first variation was present on the 29/70 and it copies the lines of the Swiss 06/29 (straight front area). The second variation follows the lines of the DWM 1906 design and was introduced in late 1972.

The grips themselves have seen several modifications as the first grips were too thick for comfort, the result of an attempt to keep the grips from working loose by adding a couple of brass keepers to the inside of the grips. Later these keepers were deleted and replaced by a central 'locking pin' design.

Thanks Vlim! The Swiss pattern is my favorite!
 

Thanks Vlim. The Swiss Pattern is my Favorite! What an awesome pistol!

These were the last Lugers ever produced. The really lousy thing is that Mauser is out of business.

They made the telescopic bolt Mauser 66 which is one of the best sporting rifles in the world. I have on in .30-06 with Double-set triggers.

They are not out of business, actually.

The production of hunting rifles was taken over by a different company but they still use Mauser Jagdwaffen GmbH as their business outfit. (Blaser, in turn connected to the SIG brand name. They market the Mauser M2 pistol in the US).

The production of military grade equipment is also still active (in the old company building at Oberndorf am Neckar), but now under a different name: Rheinmetall Defence.