Shadowlord and Bill
Thanks for the information. Table updated.
Jan

1938 SN 7358 (with Y or X above), ? about SE numbers due to heavy reblue, Alu mag has + and droop eagle over 63

Hoyt Weathers
Trinity, Alabama

1937 S42 #2460 SE63 SE63 (small) MTP

hello Jan,
Just acquired... with bring back papers
1937 S/42 6902s DE/63 DE/63 MTP
frame bump
small parts blued
matching w/ matching grips
non matching mag. type 3 8753p

Happy and excited to add my latest 98% rig:
1938 S/42 s/n 3797m
SE/83 SE 63 MTP
Two matching mags, one plain and one +, both SE/83
Matching grips
Superb black Karl Barth, Waldbrol holster, WaA 145, dated 1938
SE/63 loading tool

1937 navy and 38 info
 

I just noticed or took note of this. Here are my additions.

1937 s/42 Navy DE/63 9881 r N 2354
1938 s/42 SE63 4694 f

I'm sorry to say I don't know what the MTP is or if they have it.

Dave

Just picked up.
1937 s/42 9553x DE/63 DE/63 MTP
one matching mag
frame bump
small parts blued

jerry

1938 S/42, SN 7358c, 7358 (no c )on bottom of barrel, no barrel gauge #, SE83, S63, + a round stamp I can't make out.

Hoyt Weathers

Mid Test Proof ?
 

What does a Mid Test proof look like and where is it located on the 1938 S/42?

Hoyt Weathers

1937 S/42, sn 1521r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
1938 S/42, sn 5392d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP

Thank you phoenix.

Now I know.

Hoyt Weathers

1937 s/42 serial no. 1991 v DE/63 DE/63 MTP
Randy

Hoyt, hugh, Nomadr, Aaron, Dave, jerry, phoenix and Randy
Thanks for the information. Table above updated.
Jan

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a new 1937 S/42 serial number7992
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger37_2.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger37_1.jpg

I will put on the forum some more pics an ask some questions

best regards from France
jea-marie

Correction to my previous posting of this Luger:

SN 7358 DE/63 DE/63 MTP

Jan,

1937 S/42, sn 3513-ns, SE/63 SE/63, MTP

This gun is not pristine but it is mechanically sound. It has a moderate amount of light pitting and a couple of rough spots caused by rust. The bluing is thinning and turning to a brown patina on the grip strap and parts of the lower frame. The bore of the gun is good, there is some pitting in the bore, but the lands and grooves are strong. The best I can tell the waffen marks are 83 and 63 on the receiver. The grips fit good and are in very good shape, but are darkened with age and oil. All parts seem to be properly numbered and waffen marks are correct. The magazine has the aluminum base with the correct serial number and is waffen marked 83.

to help provide data, you'd need to tell the order of the markings, its serial number, its date, etc... See examples above

1937 S/42 SE/63 SE/63 MTP

http://home.comcast.net/~dbweb1903/g...ols/s42/l3.jpg

1938 S-42
 

This gun is not pristine but it is mechanically sound. Serial number is 2286n. It has a moderate amount of light pitting and a couple of rough spots caused by rust. The bluing is thining and turning to a brown patina on the grip strap and parts of the lower frame. The bore of the gun is good, there is some pitting in the bore, but the lands and grooves are strong. The waffen marks are 83 and 63 on the receiver, best I can tell. Seems to be the droop wing eagle on the receiver and perhaps the stick wing eagle on the barrel, it's a little faint. The grips fit good and are in very good shape, but are darkened with age and oil. All parts seem to be properly numbered and waffen marks are correct. The magazine has the aluminum base with the correct serial number and is waffen marked 83.
Photos:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/_barrs_s42_rt..jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...lft._copy2.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...s42_waffen.jpg

Hope this helps, not real sure about the eagles, barr

S/42 1937
 

1937 1264 t, DE63, strawed, hump, matching mag SE63

S/42 1937

1937 5607p D/E 63, strawed, MTP, matching

I feel like a full on GOMER...It's only now that I realize in my haste to participate, I completely omited my pistols S/N, which of course renders my previous submission utterally useless!

Let's try it again...
1937 S/42 SE/63 SE/63 MTP 3746a!!!

Oh, uh...and all blued...not strawed...but the previous pic illustrates that.
(I sure hope none of you realize this lack of putting all the data correctly together in one post, is really an elaborate scheme of mine, designed explicitly to drive my # of posts up, and has NOTHING to do with the fact that I can't seem to follow directions very well) ;)

1938 S/42 - S/N 4797n - SE/83 SE/63 - MTP - mag= wood finger grip #2831

,John

S/42 Data for Jan
 

Hi Jan, Brand new to forum. My first post goes to you. 1937 S/42, sn 4185u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP all matching except mag.

John, welcome to the forum! I have merged your thread into this one where all the other 1937 info is located.



Ed

Thanks Ed, I'll figure out where everything goes in time. John

Jan, I finally got a good look at the 1937 S/42 sn 8091a that I mentioned long ago.

Here is a photo (although not very focused, but you can see the images. The numbers are definitely both 63. Sorry this took so long.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/1937s42proofs.jpg

S/42s to report
 

Jan

1937 S/42 sn 3513 SE63 SE63 MTP blued
1937 S/42 sn 7727p DE63 DE63 MTP strawed

Paul

1937 S/42 sn 6295a SE63 SE63 MTP blued, matching grips

1937 S/42 SE63 SE63 MTP, 6054a , blued and bump

Jan:
1937, S/42, S/N 1646x: DE/63 DE/63 MTP, all black, w/frame hump. The two DE/63s were definitely stamped with two different dies.
Bob

'37 & '38 P.08 markings
 

Jan:
Ref my prior reply on 1937 S/42 S/N 1646X: The magazine is matching (first mag, not extra) and has an SE/63 Acceptance Stamp.
Bob

Data request 1937 and 1938 S/42
 

1938 S/42, sn 9307k, SE/63 SE/63 MTP Mat mag SE/63

Jea-marie, Hoyt, grappa, bar 44, ChannelIsles, John Winter, John (Capricorn), John 42766, John Sabato, Paul, Aaron, AK2 G., whcoyte and Ron; thanks for the 1937 and 1938 S/42 data. Table updated.

1938 S/42, sn 4463c, SE/83 SE/63 non matching mag. I could be wrong, the reblue is so heavy it is very hard to see even with a 10X loupe.

1938 S/42, sn 7804h, SE/63 SE/63 non matching mag, Silver and gold plated, Heavy barrel

1938 S/42 out of posted ser. # range S/42 marked receiver with no proofs/ser.#'s
 

Mr. Still,

As per my post with pictures on the forum. Any information/enlightenment would be appreciated.


1938 S/42 'parts marking' as pictured in Kenyon's Lugers at Random page 370

Serial # is 9057, O block, which I believe falls outside the 1938 range and into 1939 production.

Receiver and barrel with no serial numbers, but S/42 marked on left of receiver where serial number would normally be. No WAA's or firing proofs on right side of slide, but barrel is stamped E/655...1939 production?, as per Kenyon's photo's, but no index marks on barrel/slide, all toggle parts and internals including firing pin marked 57, as per normal.

The bottom half is all matching, including mag, which is E/63 marked, grips are 6 digits off.

Rare or just unusual? Kinda spooky looking without proofs and serial numbers. I have never encountered one, but remembered seeing the variation pictured.

Would really appreciate any information on this anomaly from the experts.

A long time ago, I determined that serial numbers without the essential related data only provides an avenue to get a collector of this information in a lot of trouble. The 1937-S/42 is a good example. There were three major transitions in 1937. Number one, the change from the straw small parts to the all blue small parts. It would help if you would indicate this info with the serial number and letter suffix (blue or straw). Number two, the no hump to the hump (does your pistol have the Mauser hump). Keep in mind that some pistols with straw small parts have the Mauser hump (please indicate). And three the change in the magazine acceptance in the - r - block from the DE-63 to the SE-63. If this data is not presented, all we have is serial numbers and absolutly no way to present these changes to collectors. Hopefully you guys who are presenting the serial numbers will provide this additional information. I collect serial numbers also and need this information to make accurate comments. Thanks