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Navy 07-17-2002 12:44 PM

One last reason why L.P.Th cannot be Potsdam....Potsdam is in what was Prussia, not Thuringen

Tom A.
Who lived in .. for over .. [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

Garfield 07-18-2002 07:42 PM

PL:

Thanks for posting the pics of the proofs on you pistol. Unfortunately it is difficult to tell much. I am unfamiliar with a receiver proof found on a police pistol that incorporates a large "2" in it, however, as I previously stated, there are a lot of things that I haven't seen. Am going to attempt to look into this. If you are interested, I will email if I find something out.

Regards,

policeluger 07-18-2002 11:08 PM

Garfield,
thanks and keep me posted on what you find, this is what the forum is all about. PL

Jan C Still 07-19-2002 10:29 PM

Pete
It seems that you folks have already figured the unit mark ID.

I got the following ID from Klaus Schad
"I'm quite positive that this police unit mark stands for : Landes Polizei
Thueringen Waffe Nr.171."

Based on its serial number I would estimate that your Luger was manufactured in about 1924 by DWM. According to orders dated 1933 the sear and magazine safeties were added. It was common for the police armories to add serial numbers to the sideplate, the receiver and other parts. These additional serial are not as well struck as the factory serial numbers.

You have obtained a new manufactured DWM Luger issued to the Prussian State police with a matching magazine. Neat Luger
Jan

Pete Ebbink 07-20-2002 01:56 AM

Hello Jan,

Thanks for the confirming info. on my police luger.

Funny; I just ducked into this gunshop to avoid a 1-hour commute-time drive home. Was not expecting to really find anything to buy.

And then to find that mostly-intact magazine safety device (I think it is a Walther-type design). That was just a great surprise !!!

Pete...

ken d 08-06-2002 06:44 PM

Hello Pete;
I responded to a "Bargain Mart" ad this weekend and picked up a DWM 1917 all matching, 2342e military /police reissue. Normal DWM proofs on receiver, replaced renumbered barrel with E/su25 proof, overall excellent condition. Has sear and disabled mag safties. Front gripstrap marked-- L.P.Th.1772, Wooden bottom mag marked crossways L.P.Th 2342(two lines). Sorry no pic capability.
Thueringen must of had a lot of lugers--1772
Ken D

Thor 09-12-2002 10:42 PM

Okay guys, here is a long one, all medium height letters and numbers all the same Height. These found on the front grip strap of a 1916 DWM.
4.E.M.G.K.18.A.K. WOW, that is a mouthfull!

Doubs 09-13-2002 12:25 AM

Thor, if I'm reading Jeff Noll's book of Regimental Markings correctly, "4.E.M.G.K.18.A.K." translates to: "4th Ersatz-Maschinengewehr- Kompagnien 18th Armeekorps" or 4th Replacement Machinegun Company of the 18th Army Corps.

According to his list, each Army Corps had from 2 to 7 such companies assigned. He also says that when E.M.G.K. markings are found, often the specific Army Corps is not identified. The marking is illustrated in the 1909 Official Regulations.

Thor 09-13-2002 01:07 AM

WOW!!! Thanks Doubs!

Navy 09-13-2002 11:14 AM

Concur with Doubs. He nailed it.

Tom A.


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