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ViggoG 05-15-2003 01:01 AM

Jim,
You can reproduce Umlauts by building a small dictionary of words* that have the umlauts that you require and copy and paste the entire word or just the single letter that you wish to replace.
Go to some of the dual language Web Pages and copy and paste yourself anything that you wish.
Its slow but it works.
* keep it stored in your Word Document files.
ViggoG

Ron Wood 05-15-2003 01:36 AM

For Special Characters,
hold down on the "Alt" key
and enter the number.
("Num Lock" on and use
number key pad, the top
row numbers on the keyboard
wonâ??t work).
�¤ 132
Ã?? 142
�« 137
�¶ 148
Ã?? 153
�¯ 139
�¼ 129
Ã?? 154
�¡ 160
�© 130
Ã?Â* 161
�³ 162
�º 163
�± 164
Ã?? 165
�¿ 152
�£ 156

Edward Tinker 05-15-2003 02:03 AM

I'll be darned!

I had heard of this, but never was able to get it to work before!

Thanks Ron,

Ed

Strider 05-15-2003 02:12 PM

Ed, I had previously tried to show folks how to do this earlier in the the general discussion area under the thread "umlauts and other interesting characters". There are other interesting characters depending on what font is available also.

Edward Tinker 05-15-2003 04:07 PM

Strider, I knew I had heard it before and tried it once, but couldn't get it to work???? I usually did the ole cut and paste when I felt the need, :D

Thanks!

Ed

Strider 05-15-2003 05:11 PM

I use that one quite a bit myself. Why work so hard when you do not have to. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Ron Wood 05-15-2003 05:40 PM

Strider,
Your post was the source for the method I posted above. I couldn't find the thread to reference it but I had saved the instructions. Thanks, I have used it several times. You wouldn't happen to know what the code is for the German double-s (looks like a Greek beta) is would you?

Edward Tinker 05-15-2003 06:11 PM

In high school German we always called it a pregnant B, and of course the reason they went away from using it, was becausse it reminded people too much that it looked like thiSS .

I would imagine there is a way to show it Ron?

Ron Wood 05-15-2003 06:43 PM

Sure. Look at "Zuverl�¤�?ig" and some other words in gustav73's post above.

Edward Tinker 05-15-2003 07:22 PM

Yes, and I bet he is using a German word processing program that makes it easy for them to use it, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Jim Keenan 05-16-2003 02:31 PM

Those techniques do not seem to work in Quick Reply. I think it, like most BB sites, uses WordPad, which does not support those methods and does not have the "insert symbol" capability of MS Word. (It also does not support Bold, Italic, or Underline.)

MS Word and Word Perfect can also be set up to insert any symbols in the symbol table with the ALT key, which WordPad cannot.

Jim

John Sabato 05-16-2003 03:11 PM

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">(It also does not support Bold , Italic , or...)</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">I am not sure that is true Jim... this reply was posted with the QuickReply feature... and both BOLD and ITALICS work... just UNDERLINE didn't...

"Underline" is not a functional UBB Code.

Heydrich 05-17-2003 08:00 PM

Ron:

Those representations are from the original 256 code ASCII character set. I’ve been doing a lot of C++ programming lately, and they are handy to know, because you can generate a char array of integers, and if you send them to be outputted (it’s actually stored as a number), it will print out the corresponding ASCII character instead. For instance, ASCII 65 is capital A.

Some time back, ASCII got incorporated in the Unicode (hex) character set, so you can print the German letters using hex too:

Atl 0252 = �¼
Alt 0228 = �¤
Alt 0235 = �«

I actually looked up those characters way back in the 80s, when I wanted to correctly print out the name of a popular heavy metal band of the time: Motley Cr�¼e.

The German/Latin Sharp S character is: Unicode 00DF = Ã??

Type in two zeros and df (upper or lower case), place the cursor to the right of it, and hit Alt+X. The interface you are using at the time must be able to support Unicode. (Like MS Word.)

Ron Wood 05-17-2003 08:17 PM

Heydrich,

Thanks guy! I don't have much occasion to use Ã?? so I usually cut and paste like ViggoG suggested, but it is neat to have the keyboard shortcut. Much appreciated information. I have been fiddling around with various Alt/number combinations to try to stumble onto the ASCII representation for Ã?? but haven't been successful so far.

Ron Wood 05-17-2003 09:08 PM

Eureka! I found the Alt key combination for Ã??!
It is 225 (actually it is the Greek character beta, but it looks like a sharp S). As in my (Strider's) prior table of special characters, hold down the Alt key and type in 225 on the key pad (Num Lock on).

Heydrich 05-17-2003 09:34 PM

Ron:

Yeah, that looks exactly like the German Sharp S! I went and printed out the whole ASCII table for future reference. ASCII It also looks like you can find the Unicode character set in MS Word simply by placing the cursor directly to the right of the symbol you typed in (or pasted off the Internet), and hitting Alt + X. This trick could come in real handy to avoid actually having to look up the Unicode set for that character, or just to be a smart-ass and show off to your co-workers, friends, or family when they are around the computer.

Navy 05-17-2003 10:25 PM

All,
I never cease to be amazed at the arcane information us Luger-heads get into. I don't think that there are 10 people in this (or any other( universe who cares about this stuff, but, Lord knows, WE DO.

Its great being a Luger collector!
Tom A.

Strider 05-17-2003 10:31 PM

Hi Ron, glad you found the combination you wanted. I did not see your post until tonight so I would not have been able to help you until Monday. There are a lot options available depending on the font. I found several neats ones that I have used for work. When I get back I will see what else I can come up with.
Sid.


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