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briskspirit 04-10-2020 07:50 PM

If we forget about that it was refinished and that barrel is worn - how rare this model is? Because I don't see any on GunBroker (M1906 in 9mm and not an American Eagle). Also saw maybe 3-4 through other specialized websites. Is it true that only ~4000 was produced?

briskspirit 04-10-2020 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lugerdoc (Post 330827)
Due to the heavy polishing and hot dip refinish, I feel that it is matching and early proofed is immaterial, so just a shot out 9mm shooter. If it functions reliably, $700 is a fair price in todays market. TH

What's your opinion on this gun? Just make it a good shooter because it lost it's collectible value?

DonVoigt 04-10-2020 11:27 PM

I'd say that one was really "corroded" out.
May shoot ok, if you stay close enough ; or close the door to the barn,
and shoot toward the outside. :)

Barrel can be changed if it doesn't shoot to your liking.

briskspirit 04-11-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 330847)
I'd say that one was really "corroded" out.
May shoot ok, if you stay close enough ; or close the door to the barn,
and shoot toward the outside. :)

Barrel can be changed if it doesn't shoot to your liking.

I Miami area all ranges are closed for now, so I can't test it )

HerrKaiser 04-11-2020 12:29 PM

IMO,

The 1906 models are very handsome guns and your refinish does not look super ugly in overall aesthetics, even though it does kill collector value. It should still turn some heads at the range. I would be very happy to get a pretty range toy like that for only $700.

briskspirit 04-11-2020 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HerrKaiser (Post 330858)
IMO,

The 1906 models are very handsome guns and your refinish does not look super ugly in overall aesthetics, even though it does kill collector value. It should still turn some heads at the range. I would be very happy to get a pretty range toy like that for only $700.

First inspiring answer (that I wanted to hear :))) Thank you!)

briskspirit 04-13-2020 12:11 AM

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Decided to do intensive cleaning(spent 3 evenings) and fixed some mistakes of previous owner(who tried to blue strawed parts). Light polishing and 15 minutes in 450F oven made a miracle! :) :

Dwight Gruber 04-13-2020 12:42 AM

Well done. If you really plan to shoot this, you should invest in an aftermarket magazine such as a Mec-Gar, or find a good WWII FXO magazine.Your magazine looks like a very nice commercial mag to display with the gun, but one of the biggest causes of operational failure is that these hundred-year-old magazines have become tired and out-of-adjustment.



--Dwight

briskspirit 04-13-2020 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber (Post 330892)
Well done. If you really plan to shoot this, you should invest in an aftermarket magazine such as a Mec-Gar, or find a good WWII FXO magazine.Your magazine looks like a very nice commercial mag to display with the gun, but one of the biggest causes of operational failure is that these hundred-year-old magazines have become tired and out-of-adjustment.



--Dwight

Thank you for insight! I thought about buying Mec-Gar from GunBroker. Do you know where I can find blueprints of original magazine? To check lips and readjust them if needed.

DonVoigt 04-13-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by briskspirit (Post 330895)
Thank you for insight! I thought about buying Mec-Gar from GunBroker. Do you know where I can find blueprints of original magazine? To check lips and readjust them if needed.

You won't need to mess with the mecgar mag, if you are talking about the original mag- just compare it with the mecgar.

There is a cd of original blueprints available from one of the moderators, there is a recent thread on this.

briskspirit 04-13-2020 09:53 AM

What oil was used on hand grips? Linseed or Tung? I want to clean them too

briskspirit 04-14-2020 10:03 AM

Please help me to understand how hand grips were numbered on 1906 Lugers. I see through this forum that some has no number, others has number on both grips. Mine has number on the right grip(and number 1 on top of serial) and P on the left(and some other mark but not digits)

And breach block has strange serial number that seems like it was altered or could it be a mistake that was corrected? :

Doubs 04-14-2020 11:00 AM

The fonts on the breech block appear to be the same so IMO the 1 over the 0 is a corrective stamp.

The other possibility is that the breech block was replaced at some point in the pistol's life and both numbers were over stamped. (Looking at the 9, there could have been another number under it but I can't be certain)

Dwight Gruber 04-14-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by briskspirit (Post 330845)
If we forget about that it was refinished and that barrel is worn - how rare this model is? Because I don't see any on GunBroker (M1906 in 9mm and not an American Eagle). Also saw maybe 3-4 through other specialized websites. Is it true that only ~4000 was produced?


See my comment earlier about the utter futility of the fantasy of estimating production numbers. I cannot stress enough about the impossibility of that endeavor.


It is possible to tell you that, of the reported New Model American Eagles, 1,348 are in 7,65mm; and 626 are 9mm. By serial number, there were 44,038 New Model Parabellums produced, in all variations (including interspersed P08 commercial production). It should be obvious why, statistically, it is impossible to make an estimation.


--Dwight

John Sabato 04-14-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by briskspirit (Post 330895)
Do you know where I can find blueprints of original magazine? To check lips and readjust them if needed.

The complete set of Luger Blueprints including the magazine, are indeed still available from me, but are no longer on CD since the advent of high speed internet. You can download them.

"Shoot" me a Private Message (PM), and I will give you ordering instructions. They are $25.00 USD via Paypal.

briskspirit 04-14-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 330942)
The complete set of Luger Blueprints including the magazine, are indeed still available from me, but are no longer on CD since the advent of high speed internet. You can download them.

"Shoot" me a Private Message (PM), and I will give you ordering instructions. They are $25.00 USD via Paypal.

Blueprints for which models are included? Thank you.


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