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Kyrie 01-30-2019 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MW2152 (Post 322723)
The Tokarevs are the old original military style right? With no safety? Don’t they have to have a safety to meet the ATF import requirements these days?

Lugers and P38s would sure meet the rules tho.

Those TT-33s are not in the US. That was a picture of one of several dumpsters full of new TT-33s waiting to be destroyed.

MW2152 01-30-2019 12:16 PM

Yep, thanks!

My point was that they could not currently be imported in that configuration anyway :(

k98mike 01-30-2019 06:07 PM

Can they not be imported because they are in Russia?

DonVoigt 01-30-2019 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k98mike (Post 322769)
Can they not be imported because they are in Russia?

That would be "a" reason; they also don't meet import criteria- if you mean the Tokarev pistols.

lugerholsterrepair 01-30-2019 08:52 PM

Venezuela could use them right about now.

hayhugh 01-31-2019 02:29 AM

Buy T-33 here, scroll down to second item: https://mailchi.mp/aimsurplus/new-sh...s?e=cee4516609

Kyrie 01-31-2019 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MW2152 (Post 322756)
Yep, thanks!

My point was that they could not currently be imported in that configuration anyway :(

Understood :-)

My point was all those TT-33s were in dumpsters on the way to be destroyed (just like the Lugers, P.38s, ect. in the original post).

They cannot be imported into the US because they no longer exist :-(

DonVoigt 01-31-2019 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyrie (Post 322792)
Understood :-)

My point was all those TT-33s were in dumpsters on the way to be destroyed (just like the Lugers, P.38s, ect. in the original post).

They cannot be imported into the US because they no longer exist :-(

Don't exist? Really? Maybe?
Well, except for the ones that "fell off the truck".:D

Kyrie 01-31-2019 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 322793)
Don't exist? Really? Maybe?
--- snip ---

Really, really.

If any didn't make it into the dumpsters, they might have survived (for a while). But for the pistols in the dumpsters, crunchola.

Diver6106 02-06-2019 11:51 PM

That's what people like Sam Cummings looked for... They are worth too much to just melt down and will show up somewhere in the future. Just like the Chinese Mausers brought into North Carolina years ago. Negotiations will continue...

hayhugh 02-07-2019 02:44 AM

A good substitute: https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo...-surplus-9rd/?

Kyrie 02-07-2019 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diver6106 (Post 322943)
That's what people like Sam Cummings looked for... They are worth too much to just melt down and will show up somewhere in the future. Just like the Chinese Mausers brought into North Carolina years ago. Negotiations will continue...

Unfortunately, no. Dumpsters of Soviet Russian TT-33 and Makarov pistols, and US 1911A1 pistols gone to the cruncher.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...es/Crunch1.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...es/Crunch2.jpg

Sam Cummings and his business model have both been dead
for decades.

Kyrie 02-07-2019 04:54 PM

Knew I had at least one photo of the Makarov pistols on the way to the cruncher, just took me a while to remember where I'd filed it:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...ToCruncher.jpg

Eugen 02-08-2019 07:20 PM

Kyrie, I'd thank you for sharing those photos of destroyed firearms...but I am too busy crying and grieving. :crying:

Kyrie 02-09-2019 08:07 PM

I can empathize, but GCA '68 pretty much killed the importation of military surplus firearms into the USA. If it wasn't commercial w/sporting use, or police with sporting use, it wasn't importable into the US.

It wasn't until 1986, with the Firearm Owners' Protection Act, and policy changes at the Federal level, that we once more began to see some limited amount of what used to be called "military surplus" firearms. And even then the point system and minimum feature requirements remained in effect (which is why all the TT-33s imported after '86 had safeties installed).

Sharpsdressed Man 02-09-2019 09:46 PM

Right, but the later restrictions placed on "weapons of war" against China (by Clinton) and Russia (by Obama) stopped Makarovs and other Com-bloc weapons from otherwise legal import. Trump could reverse those orders, if he was made aware and saw fit to do so.

ilikelugers 04-11-2019 08:01 PM

:crying:

:(

:crying:

I would love to have a few of those MG42s

they would be an awesome tool for taking down unwanted farm silos!

https://youtu.be/EzKvwYt3Zyg

https://youtu.be/dQ0Un61Onqc


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