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Matt108 07-15-2018 05:08 PM

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Matt108 07-15-2018 05:11 PM

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lugerholsterrepair 07-15-2018 07:59 PM

I'm not an expert, especially on carbine lugers, just for your reference the one pictured below not long ago was sold here for almost 19,000 $ although the stock is not matching.



The carbine mentioned in post#18 brought a crazy price IMO. The stock is not an original carbine, looks made of pine and totally aftermarket. That stock would shave 5-8000 IMO.



The original post..while my estimate of $1200 might seem generous..it could be very difficult to re create this long barreled carbine for much less?

sheepherder 07-15-2018 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 317661)
The original post..while my estimate of $1200 might seem generous..it could be very difficult to re create this long barreled carbine for much less?

I think that would depend on how much the 'smith' valued his time. The forearm attaching piece is radically different from a Luger carbine but is obviously easier to make. The frame attachment pieces are also, compared to an OEM stock lug, easier to make. Whoever made it did not copy an existing Luger carbine but they did a creditable job. Not masterful, but not totally 'bubba' either. I didn't notice until now that it had a fitted box - That would bump up the price. ;)

Not enough pics to tell what the rear/barrel sight is.

A gun show would be the perfect place to sell it. To a new enthusiast. :)

lugerholsterrepair 07-16-2018 11:35 AM

I think that would depend on how much the 'smith' valued his time. There is doing it yourself and there is having it done. Regardless..parts alone would be more than $1200? Basic pistol, barrel, etc.

John Sabato 07-16-2018 12:57 PM

Definitely a one-of-a-kind homebrew. Shooter value in my opinion, no collector value left. The mechanical work is unusual but certainly functional... It is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it... but I certainly would never consider a value above the $1200 mentioned earlier...and probably less.

Just my $0.02... spend it wisely.

rhuff 07-16-2018 01:47 PM

Though the "carbine" is a one-off piece, if it functions reliably, it could make for a fun range gun, and conversation piece. That stock is a very nice piece of wood. Someone spent some time and $$$ to produce this end product.

Rick W. 07-16-2018 02:55 PM

Matt,

Certainly an interesting item. I kinda have a hard time thinking that it once was a carbine from the old world in looking at some of the attachments to the firearm. I would surmise that it was built from various parts post 16 inch barrel time, one would think that earlier than that a modification would not have included extra length on the barrel fwiw.

It appears that the forearm and buttstock was made from one piece of wood. Fairly nicely done too.

The forend hanger is affixed to the triggerguard with a small amount of contract, if silver soldered, one might wonder about how long it will stay. If welded, tis more better. Original forend hangers have a lot of wrap around on the triggerguard for strength and area of adhesion. At least the forend does not contact the barrel and add weight/resistance for function like in some later renditions sold to kids. Wrap around trigger hangers to the guard can hide the serial, which is an issue to some folks, for a newly manufactured firearm with stock..........or otherwise.

The buttstock attaching iron is probably homebrew, not easy to make; but easier than doing the curve in a rear attaching iron. I suspect that if the locking and alignment stud is not fitted well, that the stock will pivot slightly axially when lashed up.

One would suspect not much collector value at least from a non collector's point of view. As a shooter, function counts for a lot; even with some bad cosmetics. This one is not all that bad in appearance, better than some I reckon.

Some work in the carbine pictured, but hard to see a lot of money in it to buy it outright. Kinda one of those things, it is worth what you wanna pay for it. I would have a hard time putting 700 in it, but just one opinion in the many here.

If it works and guess it does from the posts, tis lots better than the carbine kits of the 50-80's from the shooter's point of view. Cost to make like that is another book, would take a while to figure that out from some point of view. Some folks have done it recently actually here on this forum.

Thanks for showing it, has some innovation and fair craftsmanship to it all in all.

Rick W.

Matt108 07-17-2018 05:19 PM

I appreciate everyone’s time and knowledge! If anyone ever has a question regarding Japanese swords, please don’t hesitate to contact me!

Thanks again!

Matt


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