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rolandtg 10-11-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 294478)
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::order:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Standard

"n 1949 renowned inventor, gun designer, self-taught engineer, and entrepreneur Bill Ruger wished to produce and market a new handgun; and acquired a World War II Japanese Nambu pistol from a returning US Marine. Ruger successfully duplicated two Baby Nambu pistols[3] in his garage. Using the Nambu's silhouette and bolt system, Ruger produced his first prototype, but lacked the venture capital necessary to fund its introduction."



I've only taken my MKII all the way apart twice in the last 15 years.
Fired thousands of rounds. Q-tips, barrel brush, and Hobbs followed up with fresh lube is enough to keep it going! :)

John Sabato 10-11-2016 03:43 PM

Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu... Bill Ruger took the concept to the next and appropriate level. The Nambu has always looked like it was sent to production while still in the prototype stage to me.... just my not so humble opinion... :D

kurusu 10-11-2016 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 294479)
You guys that dread disassembling and reassembling a Ruger obviously need a broomhandle Mauser in your lives...

Beg to differ.

Never had trouble disassembling a C96. The Ruger on the other hand...

kurusu 10-11-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 294478)
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I could see this coming a mile away. :D

Long gone are the days when the Japanese used a side arm that John might aprove.

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This forum has been too quiet lately. :rolleyes:

mrerick 10-11-2016 04:33 PM

Of course, from the WikiPedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nambu_pistol

"The Nambu Type A outwardly resembles the Luger P08 pistol but functionally is more similar to the Mauser C96.[3]"

I guess, what goes around, goes around and around and around...

Zorba 10-11-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 294481)
Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu...

John has a secret back room that nobody is allowed into except him. Its full of Arisakas and Nambus! I have it on good authority that the T-94 is a particular favorite of his... :D:D:D:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::burnout:

rolandtg 10-11-2016 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 294481)
Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu... Bill Ruger took the concept to the next and appropriate level. The Nambu has always looked like it was sent to production while still in the prototype stage to me.... just my not so humble opinion... :D

Well I certainly agree with that!

But imagine an 8mm Ruger MKII. Wouldn't that be something!

As far as the Type 94 there must have been bribery involved with getting that into production.

sheepherder 10-11-2016 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rolandtg (Post 294496)
But imagine an 8mm Ruger MKII. Wouldn't that be something!

Well, here's something close... :p

Sieger 10-11-2016 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 294481)
Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu... Bill Ruger took the concept to the next and appropriate level. The Nambu has always looked like it was sent to production while still in the prototype stage to me.... just my not so humble opinion... :D

John,

Looking at a T-14 Nambu, we see a C-96 Mauser top and locking system (modified yes) and a Luger bottom and magazine.

Notwithstanding the late war production "junk", I prefer the Nambu system to the toggle system of our beloved Luger. Why? Because it is not so ammo sensitive, yet, it is still as highly accurate.

Just my experienced opinion. Others, of course, may not agree with me.

Sieger

Sieger 10-11-2016 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorba (Post 294485)
John has a secret back room that nobody is allowed into except him. Its full of Arisakas and Nambus! I have it on good authority that the T-94 is a particular favorite of his... :D:D:D:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::burnout:

Zorba,

I bet there is a tape out there, from 10 or so years ago, on with John speaks about Japanese firearms in a lustful way.

Rumor has it, that the Washington Post has just now started looking for it, as, of late, they have been very preoccupied finding the Trump tape.

Sieger

Zorba 10-11-2016 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieger (Post 294500)
Zorba,

I bet there is a tape out there, from 10 or so years ago, on with John speaks about Japanese firearms in a lustful way.

Rumor has it, that the Washington Post has just now started looking for it, as, of late, they have been very preoccupied finding the Trump tape.

Sieger

Well, since they can't find Hillary's emails...

DonVoigt 10-12-2016 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieger (Post 294499)
John,

Looking at a T-14 Nambu, we see a C-96 Mauser top and locking system (modified yes) and a Luger bottom and magazine.

Notwithstanding the late war production "junk", I prefer the Nambu system to the toggle system of our beloved Luger. Why? Because it is not so ammo sensitive, yet, it is still as highly accurate.

Just my experienced opinion. Others, of course, may not agree with me.

Sieger


The T 14 late war "finish" may have deteriorated, but the pistols are not "junk", they work as intended, JMHO.

Folks frequently confuse "appearance" with "quality of purpose".

Sieger 10-12-2016 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 294502)
The T 14 late war "finish" may have deteriorated, but the pistols are not "junk", they work as intended, JMHO.

Folks frequently confuse "appearance" with "quality of purpose".

Don,

Yes, I have three "Late War Junkers" and they do, indeed, work.

However, they lack the class of the beautifuly finished "Pre Wars".

Compare a 1945 Nambu's finish to a 1945 P-38's finish and you will note a real difference.

Yes, Hitler seems to have made the "quality of purpose" mistake relative to the Russian weapons. For instance, my Soviet Mosin Sniper rifle looks like hell, but will shoot less than 1/2 inch, 100 yard groups, all day!!!

Sieger

Sieger 10-12-2016 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorba (Post 294501)
Well, since they can't find Hillary's emails...

Zorba,

A liberal newspaper wouldn't be looking for her emails, but maybe the Washington Times can find them.

Putin has them all anyway, as he has been reading her correspondence, every night, for years.

Maybe Snowden found them for him!


Sieger

Zorba 10-12-2016 01:35 PM

Snort!

Zorba 10-12-2016 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 294502)
The T 14 late war "finish" may have deteriorated, but the pistols are not "junk", they work as intended, JMHO.

Folks frequently confuse "appearance" with "quality of purpose".

Mine's a "17", it isn't a Walther for sure, but it isn't bad looking. Sweet shooting pistol, very accurate. Of course it should be accurate at $1/rd!! :crying:

kurusu 10-12-2016 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorba (Post 294513)
Mine's a "17", it isn't a Walther for sure, but it isn't bad looking. Sweet shooting pistol, very accurate. Of course it should be accurate at $1/rd!! :crying:



:eek:
If you'd roll your own it would be a lot cheaper.

I bet Sieger will tell you the same.

Rich T 10-12-2016 05:18 PM

Well... jeez... who’da thunk a little American made (OK not so little, but..) pistol would generate such exchanges :D

And I just called “Tiberius” and told him the news. He wants to buy the Luger back :D

Zorba 10-13-2016 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kurusu (Post 294515)
:eek:
If you'd roll your own it would be a lot cheaper.

I bet Sieger will tell you the same.

Yea, it would. And certainly never say never. But I'm not there yet.

DonVoigt 10-13-2016 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieger (Post 294503)
Don,

Yes, I have three "Late War Junkers" and they do, indeed, work.

However, they lack the class of the beautifuly finished "Pre Wars".

Compare a 1945 Nambu's finish to a 1945 P-38's finish and you will note a real difference.

Yes, Hitler seems to have made the "quality of purpose" mistake relative to the Russian weapons. For instance, my Soviet Mosin Sniper rifle looks like hell, but will shoot less than 1/2 inch, 100 yard groups, all day!!!

Sieger

What has the "appearance" to do with your statement that they "work"?

The implication was that there was/is something wrong with late war pistols- other than aesthetics- they are identical to pretty ones.


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