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sheepherder 08-10-2016 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan Duke (Post 292376)
I haven't received it yet ,but my evaluation from just looking at the pictures tends to make me think that this was a re work of a Swiss Bern Luger.

I think several of us would still be interested in a detailed pictorial, especially of the frame. There have been several smiths make 'baby' Lugers, cutting & welding/brazing the cut pieces together after removing a section of the frame. Thor has posted an excellent pair of pictures on how he did his. John Martz has also done some this way, as well as Eugene Golubstov. :)

Besides sectioning the frame, the recoil spring and recoil spring guide must be shortened, and the magazine sectioned & re-bottomed. Grips shortened too, of course.

As an amateur fabricator and general all-around busybody, I like to compare the pros & cons of how each smith did the modifications.

Knowing how others approach a project helps me to learn how they apply their knowledge and experience. This helps me to do the same.

There's dozens of ways to skin a cat. I like to see how others do it, and learn from them to be a better catskinner. :D

Ron Wood 08-10-2016 02:43 PM

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This little gun is my pride and joy, and one of my favorite Lugers. It is a full-house John Martz creation...a M1900 baby that has not only been cut down, it has been converted to a coil mainspring as well. A true gunsmith work of art.

Ron Wood 08-10-2016 02:48 PM

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This is the one I have been fiddling with for 30 years and still haven't finished it.

Vlim 08-14-2016 12:44 PM

Evan. The pistols are discussed in our book 'The Parabellum is Back - 1945 - 2000'. Mauser set up tooling in the 1970s and produced them again. Your baby is made out of a postwar Parabellum as a feasibility study for a commemorative version. The handwriting on the magazine is most likely that of Prof. Dr. Rolf Gminder, then manager of small arms production at Mauser.

Evan Duke 08-14-2016 07:57 PM

baby luger
 
Vlim, thanks for the info. I received the pistol on Saturday. I don't believe that it has ever been fired.

hayhugh 08-14-2016 09:15 PM

Looking forward to seeing photos and more info...........

John Sabato 08-15-2016 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hayhugh (Post 292472)
looking forward to seeing photos and more info...........

+1 !

Vlim 08-15-2016 11:01 AM

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Your pistol was made in July 1974 and received an 'Original Mauser' toggle description.

The first prototype was made in May, 1974 and got the 10.000101 serial, with a toggle with Mauser banner, but without 'Original' text.

The pistols were initially numbered as follows:
I = 10.000101
II = 11.000101 (your pistol)
III = 10.000001
IV = the reference pistol.

The original document describing the production of these pistols is dated on the 2nd of August, 1974.
A progress document dating from the 31st of July, 1974 indicates that the 4 pistols were made as prototypes for possible sales by Renato Gamba in Italy.

sheepherder 08-15-2016 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 292381)
This is the one I have been fiddling with for 30 years and still haven't finished it.

Maybe you should put your baby up for adoption... :D

Ron Wood 08-15-2016 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 292482)
Maybe you should put your baby up for adoption... :D

Nah, I have grown quite fond of the poor little beast...even unfinished it pleases me. The work I have done is kinda neat. :bigbye:

sheepherder 09-08-2016 10:57 PM

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What happened to the baby for sale on GB??? Did the sale fall through??? :confused:

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I hate to say it, but IMO Eugene has gotten the proportions and the correct donor Luger to make an appealing 'baby' (or pocket) Luger...

http://www.lugerman.com/Pages/SamplePages/Work_22.html

There is no way I could ever afford one, and I couldn't wait that long even if I could afford it...But it just looks "right"... :)

DonVoigt 09-08-2016 11:08 PM

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Rich,
You could make one yourself!

As I did with a lot of help from my friends!:D
This bbl is 2.75", I think maybe Eugene's is a half inch longer? I think I like the slightly longer bbl better myself.

Jim Solomon has the frame now, to make a set of simple "normal" checkered grips without border.

sheepherder 09-09-2016 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 293333)
This bbl is 2.75", I think maybe Eugene's is a half inch longer? I think I like the slightly longer bbl better myself.

I think you're right about the barrel. Blowing it up on my scanner, I get 3 1/8" from his web site pic. But in another thread, Ron says the early 'babies' were made from shortened fat barrels...IIRC, Navy fat barrels...(I might have not remembered that correctly)... :p


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