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tharpo 07-05-2016 03:47 PM

If the gun is not as described by the seller I think you have two options.
1. Return it for a full refund.
2. Ask for a reduction in the price.
It all depends on how much you want to keep the Luger.


Tom

wayne8661 07-05-2016 03:48 PM

I havent purchased it yet I am on the fence.

wayne8661 07-05-2016 03:54 PM

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A couple of photos

DTR04 07-05-2016 04:00 PM

I tend to think that it is a factory error. I don't see why a middle toggle link would be replaced. Breechbolt, yes, they can be damaged. Complete toggle train, yes, for whatever reason. Just my opinion with no way to prove one way or the other.

kurusu 07-05-2016 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayne8661 (Post 290981)
I havent purchased it yet I am on the fence.

Indecision will only get you so far.

You'll end up afraid of your own shadow.

wayne8661 07-05-2016 05:06 PM

Lol

Sergio Natali 07-06-2016 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayne8661 (Post 290981)
I havent purchased it yet I am on the fence.

Wayne

Do what you want but if I'm not totally convinced of what I'm seeing, I don't buy it.

sheepherder 07-06-2016 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTR04 (Post 290983)
I don't see why a middle toggle link would be replaced.

I have replaced a middle toggle link because I found a better one (less pits). But I am not a collector and whether the numbers match or not means little to me (as long as the price is right). :)

(I'll delete this post in seven days). ;)

mrerick 07-06-2016 08:58 AM

Even if the toggle train is complete as shipped from the factory, remember that you'll always feel the need to explain the irregularity in the future.

I have a 1936 Mauser Luger with a serial numbering flaw. It's a beautiful example, including the flaw and the overstamp to correct it. It's still an irregularity.

wayne8661 07-07-2016 12:03 PM

Well, I know this will probably make alot of you cringe But, I picked the pistol up today I couldn't pass.
Even with an unnumbered, unexplained middle toggle link that does hurt the value a bit I am still
confident its period.

A 1912 Unit marked DWM who wouldnt appreciate it.

wayne8661 07-07-2016 12:04 PM

Well, I know this will probably make alot of you cringe But, I picked the pistol up today I couldn't pass.
Even with an unnumbered, unexplained middle toggle link that does hurt the value a bit I am still
confident its period.

A 1912 Unit marked DWM who wouldnt appreciate it.

DavidJayUden 07-07-2016 12:20 PM

Congrats. on your new Luger. A lot of these have some mystery to them, and yours is no exception.
Enjoy!
dju

Sergio Natali 07-07-2016 12:26 PM

Wayne

After all the most important thing is not its real value, but the the fact that you're happy with it, so congrats on your new Luger.

Vlim 07-07-2016 04:44 PM

Mid toggle links do break. Usually it is the bit that retains the firing pin guide. Also the metal strip just above the firing pin extension can shear off. I've seen a couple of those.

Evan Duke 07-07-2016 06:29 PM

Ok lets get this straight. If I say my luger is a 9mm cal but it shoots 30 cal I could say that it is a variable cal gun depending on the day of the week or the availability of ammo. Now would this be a rectractible statement or am I just confused about the day of the week ?

George Anderson 07-07-2016 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Duke (Post 291103)
Ok lets get this straight. If I say my luger is a 9mm cal but it shoots 30 cal I could say that it is a variable cal gun depending on the day of the week or the availability of ammo. Now would this be a rectractible statement or am I just confused about the day of the week ?

Evan, I would recommend abstention as well as brisk walks every afternoon and morning.

DTR04 07-07-2016 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 291094)
Mid toggle links do break. Usually it is the bit that retains the firing pin guide. Also the metal strip just above the firing pin extension can shear off. I've seen a couple of those.

If I am not mistaken, the firing pin guide is retained in the breechblock. Agreed that the tab that retracts the firing pin could break.

RichSr 07-07-2016 08:20 PM

"the bit that retains the firing pin guide" If I'm not mistaken, that is contained in the breechblock not the "mid toggle link"
Oops, Got beat by another Texan

Evan Duke 07-07-2016 10:03 PM

Thanks George, I will try that right after my breakfast beer.
:thumbup:

John Sabato 07-08-2016 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Duke (Post 291124)
Thanks George, I will try that right after my breakfast beer.
:thumbup:

:eek:


...and if you are actually shooting .30 Cal Luger and 9mm interchangeably in this pistol. Please make sure your health and hospitalization insurance is paid up... and if you are having beer for breakfast also make sure that you have someone else drive you for the trip to the emergency room...:thumbup:


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