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Flintlock2016 03-28-2016 12:21 PM

To all you wonderful, knowledgeable, intelligent people out there that took the time to answer my message and help immensely, I offer you my heartfelt and humble thanks.
Pleae, each and every one of you, pat yourselves on the back from me.
Thanks guys
John

guns3545 03-28-2016 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Flintlock2016 (Post 286061)
Many many thanks John. I would guess that would devalue the gun quite a lot?
Glad I haven't bought it.
John

John,

Not necessarily. It has limited collection value because it has been deactivated. But again, deactivation is the norm in the UK.

But don't write it off. It still is a 1936 model P.08.

And, without the gun in hand, my comments are solely based on a photo. The possibility always exist that the date stamp is unmolested. Only a hands on inspection would confirm or not.

And, frankly, I am still struggling to understand why someone would take time to refresh a date while the rest of the gun appears to be in its original state. Some damage there??

Again, one must have the gun in hand to declare anything as definitive.

Sorry not be be of help here.

John

Flintlock2016 03-28-2016 12:34 PM

Thanks John, I won't take it off the list yet.
John

Sergio Natali 03-28-2016 01:30 PM

As far as the Birmingham proof mark “D A” stands for “DeActivaded”, while the figures shows the year of deactivation, so I guess it was deactivated last year.

Best.

sheepherder 03-28-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Flintlock2016 (Post 286018)
The asking price is £750.

Yahoo shows that to be $1068 USD. Seems kind of high for a deactivated Luger. Might be average in the UK though.

I notice the breechblock also has the deactivation stamp. Are any other areas stamped with the D-A/15???

Sergio Natali 03-28-2016 01:41 PM

Surely I wouldn't pay that much only for a paperweight!
Still that's the way the cookies crumble in the UK, let's keep our fingers crossed that the anti-gun craze won't spread all over the world or we'll be screwed!

Flintlock2016 03-28-2016 02:15 PM

Hi Sergio
The price is about right for the uk.
We have a television programme over here called "Rip Off Britain". That sums up the uk.
Any houses for sale near you, I'd consider emigrating!
Cheers
John

Flintlock2016 03-28-2016 02:20 PM

Hi Sheepherder
The price is about right for the uk!
Can't see any more deact marks. Why they need two though I don't know. Perhaps it's to spoil the gun even more.
UK gun laws are crazy.
John

John Sabato 03-28-2016 03:09 PM

IMHO, I think the only difference between the Date stamp on the subject gun and the example shown by DJU is that the latter is filled with some white material to make it show up in photos better... I think the date stamp is legitimate...

Just my $0.02 (or 2 pence as the case may be).

Flintlock2016 03-28-2016 03:53 PM

Thanks John S it's back on top of the list!
Cheers
John

sheepherder 03-28-2016 05:32 PM

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I think it is somewhat odd that the 1936 is straight-lined where the 1937 is all curved-lined...

mrerick 03-28-2016 05:49 PM

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Here's another example of a 1936 receiver date:

guns3545 03-28-2016 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 286081)
I think it is somewhat odd that the 1936 is straight-lined where the 1937 is all curved-lined...

As mentioned previously, the chamber date font in 1936, i.e. the first year Mauser put dates on a P.08, the numbers were more angular; that is squared off.

In 1937 and subsequent years, the fonts were more curved.

Maybe it had to do with designing a roll die that would work well on a curved surface. Or perhaps the curved numbers caused less wear.

But, in any case, that's the way it was.

John

sheepherder 03-28-2016 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mrerick (Post 286083)
Here's another example of a 1936 receiver date:

Hey! You got Olle's Luger!!! :soapbox:

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Originally Posted by guns3545 (Post 286085)
Maybe it had to do with designing a roll die that would work well on a curved surface.

Maybe the 1936 was engraved, not stamped???

mrerick 03-28-2016 08:14 PM

Yes - I enjoyed Olle's post about his P.08 Luger serial number that ends in "08".

Mine is in the middle of the "i" block. This was the first year to actually have the year number engraved on the chamber... Were the "G" and "K" stamped or engraved?

Marc

sheepherder 03-28-2016 08:25 PM

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Pic is small, but looks stamped...Nice squared corners... :)

sheepherder 03-28-2016 09:02 PM

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Here's another 1936 from Jan's forum...

DonVoigt 03-28-2016 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mrerick (Post 286090)
Yes - I enjoyed Olle's post about his P.08 Luger serial number that ends in "08".

Mine is in the middle of the "i" block. This was the first year to actually have the year number engraved on the chamber... Were the "G" and "K" stamped or engraved?

Marc

Stamped.

sheepherder 03-28-2016 10:02 PM

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'Search' here won't allow single-letter searches; I know there are some excellent pics of both K and G chamber dates [and S as well] but I can't find them... :(

I like the Gothic G best... :)

Flintlock2016 03-29-2016 05:31 PM

Once again, thanks everybody for your contributions.
I think I'll buy it!
Cheers
John


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