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LU1900 03-18-2016 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick Herman (Post 285635)
I believe that the canned beverages are peach nectar, in Spanish. Perhaps the army officers are Spanish military prior to their civil war.
No it's not ...
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Here a link from my pdf in french :

https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/
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You can read the image is from LIFE made in Czechoslovakia and dated September 1938 / Photo by John Phillips

LU1900 03-18-2016 02:00 AM
From Bing
The highest sn I have pictured in my data is :
Trommel BING 4°type sn753853
The lowest is sn 666 (and in my collection)
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From AEG
963 to 68481

Dick Herman 03-18-2016 03:47 PM
Do you have a data base for the Luger snail drum magazines?

LU1900 03-18-2016 06:44 PM
Yes I have , but I collect only with picture from them
560 pic about 400 trommelmagazin because some with one or two pics : up and down

cirelaw 03-18-2016 06:58 PM
Merci Beaucoup, Mon Amie! Congrads on the capture in Belgium!!

rpbcps 03-29-2019 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 285562)
Fake drums made in Eastern-Europe have a serial number of which the individual numbers add up to 17.
Would this an example of one?

Richard

LU1900 03-29-2019 07:10 AM
Yes , this one is a repro , the stamp number is special too and different from originals

cirelaw 03-29-2019 08:25 AM
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Another View!

rpbcps 03-29-2019 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LU1900 (Post 324400)
Yes , this one is a repro , the stamp number is special too and different from originals
Well this is one of the drums in the chest that D&B militaria are currently selling. I have asked them for photos of the markings on all of the drums and the loader, but they only sent me photos of this one.

ithacaartist 03-29-2019 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick Herman (Post 285622)
My guess is that the trommel magazines were serial numbered in sequence of manufacture. I am always amazed how many of these magazines are numbered in the mid 700,000 range. One of my Bing Brothers trommel magazines is 745537. If there were close to 3/4 of a million made, why are these magazines so "rare."

Eric,
Your last posted picture showed the MP18 with the snail drum magazines. I did not recognize what uniforms the soldiers are wearing. Perhaps these weapons and magazines were used up in the post WWI period.

That's my 2 cents.
Dick, I searched the term "Marila" seen on the two cans of whatever visible in the pic. The marila is a flower native to Mexico and down into South America. I'm guessing this may be the uniform of some South American country that would have received MP18s. The Spanish pre-war connection is not to be ruled out, though.

I'm not a uniform or insignia guy, but the 3-pointed insignia on the epaulet, the configuration of the hats, and the distinctive, non-ribbed pockets with extra-pointy flaps might be clues to their origin...

rpbcps 03-29-2019 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LU1900 (Post 324400)
Yes , this one is a repro , the stamp number is special too and different from originals
Merci Patrice
Do you know what period these reproduction drums were manufactured in Eastern Europe, and any ideas on how many were produced?

Richard

LU1900 03-29-2019 12:48 PM
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I guess they where from Poland , in first a gunshow at Kassel ,en the 1980', info from german members seen in the "lugergunboard"
I have near forty and more in my data
A pic from the L-gunboard I collect in the past :

rpbcps 03-29-2019 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LU1900 (Post 324405)
I guess they where from Poland , in first a gunshow at Kassel ,en the 1980', info from german members seen in the "lugergunboard"
I have near forty and more in my data
A pic from the L-gunboard I collect in the past :
Patrice,
Thank you for that information. I am hoping D&B will give me the serial numbers of the other drums in the 'P-Kasten' they have for sale. That should confirm, if the others are reproduction or not. You may have more numbers to add to your data. Is the one pictured above in your data already?

Richard

DonVoigt 03-29-2019 01:57 PM
Just so you guys know, there are hundreds of drum serial numbers listed in
Ed Sayre's book "The Luger Snail Drum".

They are listed by drum type, and on pages 114-118 with a notation of when and where observed.

gunbugs 03-30-2019 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 285571)
Patrice, I opened your attachment above and its full of good stuff! The finest collection I have Seen! Merci!!! http://www.tircollection.com/t8559-l...4-et-du-mp18-1
After some research, I found a copy of the photo with the officers with the MP 18's. They appear to be Czech. https://media.gettyimages.com/photos...8301?s=612x612
You can also search the image number in the lower left corner of the photo. It comes up about 5 or 6 down in the search results.

LU1900 03-30-2019 05:54 AM
Czech !
Yes , I said that in the post #21 and 1938 for the year ....
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Got/buy the Ed Sayre's book "The Luger Snail Drum": it's a very nice one !!

rpbcps 03-30-2019 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LU1900 (Post 324415)
Czech !
Yes , I said that in the post #21 and 1938 for the year ....
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Got/buy the Ed Sayre's book "The Luger Snail Drum": it's a very nice one !!
Ed Sayre's book added to my wish list for my birthday, better than socks, and if no one buys it... I'll treat myself.

rpbcps 04-01-2019 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rpbcps (Post 324402)
Well this is one of the drums in the chest that D&B militaria are currently selling. I have asked them for photos of the markings on all of the drums and the loader, but they only sent me photos of this one.
Patrice,
D& B have just provided me the serial numbers for the drum mags they are selling with, or without, the P-Kasten.

140318, 325142, 106352, 370124 and 193103

All appear to have one thing in common.

George Anderson 04-01-2019 02:10 PM
[QUOTE=rpbcps;324481

All appear to have one thing in common.[/QUOTE]

Indeed they do...17.


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