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Sergio Natali 02-10-2015 03:47 AM

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Too bad here you can find very good Red Nine... BUT as usual they are all rechambred 9X21 IMI!!!!

Sergio :banghead:

alvin 02-10-2015 05:57 AM

Is 9x21 IMI more powerful than 9x19 Luger? or weaker?

This Red 9 has a little bit issue. The hammer and lock frame were polished silver bright by someone.

alanint 02-10-2015 07:02 AM

Technically, it is more powerful, as the case may be loaded to a greater capacity than standard 9MM. This again illustrates the inane logic of goverments worldwide. The citizens are prohibited from owning a "goverment" caliber, so lets approve a slightly stretched case for them to use.

alvin 02-10-2015 08:22 AM

Only 9x19mm has to be rebored, or everything has to be rebored, including 7.63x25mm ?

cirelaw 02-10-2015 08:37 AM

Sergio, What a pretty gun! which fires better a C96 or a luger? Which is more accurate? Which do you prefer? Eric

alanint 02-10-2015 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by alvin (Post 267097)
Only 9x19mm has to be rebored, or everything has to be rebored, including 7.63x25mm ?

I believe, (if it is anything like similar laws I am aware of), that only calibers used by the local military must be altered. All others may stay the same.

alvin 02-10-2015 08:55 AM

Then, collecting 7.63mm pistols in this context. No question. For its original bore and for it being a genuine Mauser caliber from "purist" point of view. Personally, I love 7.63mm Mauser over Red 9.

But for Luger, still need to go 9mm though. 9mm is mainstream in Luger. No way to bypass that. I mean, cannot only collect 7.65mm, that's not representative.

cirelaw 02-10-2015 09:16 AM

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History Channel To The Rescue~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRJuKiMaCwU

Sergio Natali 02-10-2015 11:57 AM

Eric

Doug is correct, only calibers used by Army and Police get altered.

Until not many years ago even .45ACP was banned and the guns rechambered .45HP so the actual chamber reduced to 21mm, the problem is that when you find a beautiful WWI 1911 you might discover that is chambered 45HP (happed to me just last saturday)

I love the LUGER pistol, but C96 represents a bit of history too, couldn't tell which one I prefer.

Sergio

cirelaw 02-10-2015 12:15 PM

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First, I am always impressed by yourselve and friends knowledge and respect for all the firearm Beauties. I must confess the Walther family is one of my favorite. I think that somet under estimate their importance, prestige and shere beautiful! They probobly produced more different fine models than any one! We are especially privaleged to be able to hold them in our hand~~Lets not forget James Bond! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...stol-A-History

cirelaw 02-10-2015 12:49 PM

007 opening sequence useing lugers and ppk'shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy-c8aAntWA like you never seen before!

cirelaw 02-10-2015 01:12 PM

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Jame Bond, 'The Spy Who Loved Me' has both a luger and PPK in the opening credits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy-c8aAntWA

Sergio Natali 02-10-2015 01:22 PM

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Walter PPK is a smaller version of the Walter PP.
It's quite a cute little gun, widely used by German Police forces during WWII
Adolf Hitler shot himself with his PPK 7.65mm in his Führerbunkern in 1945.
I've seen some really nice ones recently, and not that expensive either, for instance the one enclosed Zella Mehlis costs about USD 1K
Somehow I've never managed to be interested in them (so far), I tend to prefer bigger handguns like 1911, Lugers and SIGs

Sergio

alanint 02-10-2015 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 267117)
Jame Bond, 'The Spy Who Loved Me' has both a luger and PPK in the opening credits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy-c8aAntWA

They managed to sneak a Beretta .25 Caliber into the sequence. Many people are not aware, but the Beretta was Bond's favorite gun until M MADE him switch to the PPK.

cirelaw 02-10-2015 01:39 PM

Sergio, Whats the story with the party leader edition. I noticed there were several thousand?? Are there any other super rare examples?? Thanks my Friend!!

cirelaw 02-10-2015 01:41 PM

Doug nothing gets by you! Is that the one with a hole in the trigger?

cirelaw 02-10-2015 01:51 PM

Berreta and Glock Awesome~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkS8u4QMvPA This one is for you!

Sergio Natali 02-10-2015 03:03 PM

Quite an interesting clip, (only one remark I wonder why they were showing guns so improperly held); anyway I love the Beretta that sometimes I use at the range, but since 1990 I've already owned and widely used at least a dozen different GLOCKs, at the moment I own a G17 Gen4 and a G19 Gen4.
For practical shooting instead I prefer the CZ SP01 SHADOW.

Sergio

alvin 02-10-2015 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by luger.parabellum (Post 267118)
I've seen some really nice ones recently, and not that expensive either, for instance the one enclosed Zella Mehlis costs about USD 1K

Yeah. Cheap!! Back some days ago, a member posted an ad on a RZM PPK in the WTS column. I thought I would trade with a Mauser 1930 for it. But looks like the seller had no interest. Anyway, I need to find another nice one in future. The variation is scarce, but still showing up on regular basis. Not urgent.

alanint 02-10-2015 07:20 PM

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Doug nothing gets by you! Is that the one with a hole in the trigger?


Hole in the hammer, but yes.


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