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Sergio Natali 12-24-2014 06:35 AM

Robert

The so called "Mauser hump" is found on the early K/dates (1934), but can be also found more or less throughout the whole K/date production. Last K/dates don't always have it while generally G/dates and 1936 made Lugers do not. Apparently in 1937 the so called "hump" became some sort of standard production procedure.
The S/42 (1934-1939) made in 1937 is full of different "variations" with hump and without it.

Sergio

todesengel 12-24-2014 09:39 AM

Thank you Sergio. Lot to learn

sheepherder 12-24-2014 10:40 AM

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Norm/others -

Is there any significance to the dot between/beside the "N" and the rack number on the backstrap???

Is this common among Naval or other 'racked' German weapons??? :confused:

Norme 12-24-2014 11:08 AM

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Hi Rich, I think that "period" is just a slip on the part of the pantograph operator. Most Nazi era marks do not have periods. Those Naval property marks were not applied at the factory, they were engraved at the dockyard, sometimes rather carelessly.
Regards, Norm

Sergio Natali 12-24-2014 11:15 AM

As far as I know the so called "KRIEGSMARINE VARIATION" should have the "N" property number written crosswise, or the "O." (dotted) property number stamped lenghtwise on front strap.
So, as far as I know the letter "N" should not be dotted, in fact I don't think that mark has anything to do with the Navy property number.
IMHO

Sergio

todesengel 12-24-2014 03:08 PM

Holster pics
1939 FR.OFFERMANN&SOHN, BENSBERG
can barely make out other stamp that is lower and between the belt loops but it is pretty much destroyed, apparently by the leather from the belt rubbing against the leather from the holster and maybe sea spray?. Either way it is a pity.

todesengel 12-24-2014 07:58 PM

Please disregard and close. Thank you

SteveM 12-26-2014 11:51 AM

I missed this, where are the pics? Did the OP already remove them? Why do people do this?

DavidJayUden 12-26-2014 01:00 PM

O.P. apparently removed them on Tuesday. No worldly idea why, but guessing that he sold it.
dju

todesengel 12-26-2014 01:11 PM

I did not sell this pistol, nor do I have intent to.

The thread was pretty much dead with little to no traffic so when I moved the pictures to a folder and it broke the link I did not bother to re-post the images and asked that it be closed. HTH

DavidJayUden 12-26-2014 01:47 PM

H:
Thanks for the explanation. However we value those photos (and their threads) for future reference.
dju

todesengel 12-26-2014 02:09 PM

David,
I understand and want to tell you thank you for your participation in the thread.

This thread had 454 views, and 30 responses, 14 of which were from me and 4 of which pertained to a lack of pictures. That was not just this site but another luger forum as well. I suppose I just expected more participation for something like this and maybe that was unrealistic.

I sincerely do appreciate everyone who participated and passed information to me but it looks like at this point it is just time for me to buy some books and start reading for myself.

Thanks

SteveM 12-26-2014 03:32 PM

This isn't even a week old and it appears pics were taken down after 2 days. There are some who don't visit this site but maybe once a week. There are others who are lurkers and never comment but visit every day. The holidays are here and people are busy with other things. Some of those 454 hits were from people who have no interest in WW2 navies(and couldn't care less) but love the Imperial era and wouldn't know a ww2 Navy if it hit them on the head.There may have been other comments with information that may have been useful to you. Someone may have come along and happen to have an orphan mag that matches your Luger. Like dju said, the pics and comments are a valuable resource for the site(and to the OP if he keeps up with it).

todesengel 12-26-2014 03:40 PM

Alright Steve, I will post the links up but I am not going to participate in the thread any longer, and see if there is an option to shut off receiving pm's and emails from members.

I will leave the pics up as long as I do not need the room on the server so anyone who would like the pics may wish to save them.

Happy New Year

todesengel 12-26-2014 03:53 PM

Pics re-posted in 1 and 3.

Please do not pm, or email me offers to buy.

todesengel 12-26-2014 05:50 PM

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todesengel 12-26-2014 05:55 PM

http://i.imgur.com/9FIlqfi.jpg
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[http://i.imgur.com/pFH73u1.jpg
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sheepherder 12-26-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by todesengel (Post 264878)
I did not sell this pistol, nor do I have intent to.

The thread was pretty much dead with little to no traffic so when I moved the pictures to a folder and it broke the link I did not bother to re-post the images and asked that it be closed. HTH

Quote:

This thread had 454 views, and 30 responses, 14 of which were from me and 4 of which pertained to a lack of pictures. That was not just this site but another luger forum as well. I suppose I just expected more participation for something like this and maybe that was unrealistic.
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but I am not going to participate in the thread any longer, and see if there is an option to shut off receiving pm's and emails from members.
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Please do not pm, or email me offers to buy.
Moving on to another forum sounds like a good idea. The average age of forum members here (some 11,800+) is ~75 years old. Members here tend to take things slower than younger forums. Forgetfulness is another trait. Plus, not all members here are as well versed in Lugers as some...I never knew that a N on the backstrap meant a Navy Luger (I thought it was just the nested M/crown). :rolleyes:

I'll post your holster pics for posterity. Maybe someone can identify them so this thread won't be a complete waste of time. (Pics posted off-site are lost forever). :thumbup:

We enjoyed your pics and comments! Have a great time on your next forum! :bigbye:

DavidJayUden 12-26-2014 10:39 PM

Those are some great photos. Thank you!
Want to sell it?
dju


PS: Just kidding...

alvin 12-27-2014 07:47 AM

This is a great instance. Don't know navy pistols, but as a collector once said, "put a good gun on table, the gun speaks for itself" (not exact words), and this gun is such an example.

Did the gun come from an auction? The three pictures (with transparent white background) posted were taken by a professional photographer. Most collectors cannot make gun pictures of this quality at home.

I heard M over something was acceptance mark. N followed by number was property mark.


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