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kubel 11-12-2014 11:20 PM

Interesting and impressive that you shoot this gun in competition. I often wondered why Lugers weren't utilized more for competitive shooting but heard it was because of the trigger. I'm not a gunsmith, but supposedly, the design of the Luger trigger system does not allow it to be modified much (if at all) to adjust the release point or smoothen the pull.

kurusu 11-13-2014 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kubel (Post 262912)
Interesting and impressive that you shoot this gun in competition. I often wondered why Lugers weren't utilized more for competitive shooting but heard it was because of the trigger. I'm not a gunsmith, but supposedly, the design of the Luger trigger system does not allow it to be modified much (if at all) to adjust the release point or smoothen the pull.

No, the Luger trigger can be adjusted just fine. I believe it's not used more often because of their collector/hard to replace broken numbered parts status.


PS I use a Luger in competitions too.

kubel 11-13-2014 10:56 AM

Hmm...instead of using a vintage Luger and worrying about breaking parts, I would think competitive shooters would opt for one of the newer postwar Stoeger/American Eagle versions.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's cool that people competitively shoot with prewar and WWII P08's, but it would seem more logical to use one of the new/improved pistols with better metallurgy, especially if the triggers can be modified.

kurusu 11-13-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kubel (Post 262918)
Hmm...instead of using a vintage Luger and worrying about breaking parts, I would think competitive shooters would opt for one of the newer postwar Stoeger/American Eagle versions.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's cool that people competitively shoot with prewar and WWII P08's, but it would seem more logical to use one of the new/improved pistols with better metallurgy, especially if the triggers can be modified.

One other reason Lugers aren't used more often is the sights of a bygone era standard.

The new Stoeger Lugers being in stainless steel only make things harder. And they have a bad rep, deserved or not, of not being up to standard to the originals.

Also it's harder to adjust the trigger mecanism with stainless components.

kubel 11-13-2014 11:49 AM

Ahh....I guess I didn't realize the new Lugers were stainless. And +1 concerning the sights.

Sergio Natali 11-13-2014 12:13 PM

Jonathan

I've always wanted to use one of my Lugers in a IDPA match, at least once, but at the range where I usually go I' m sure they wouldn't stop laughing! :-)

alanint 11-13-2014 01:08 PM

Until you sweep the match with your trusty P08!!

JonS/42 11-13-2014 01:18 PM

I just commissioned Tactical Tailor in Lakewood, WA to produce a custom flap holster/dual magazine pouch/modular belt rig primarily for my IDPA forays with my Luger. I've done business with them for some time for other holsters and tactical gear that they produce, and been very favorably impressed-both with their basic products/product quality and their willingness to reasonably customize. I'll share some images once it's completed. I had a great time sitting down with Tactical Tailor's custom designer and collectively working through what we both think will be a viable, slightly modernized, yet somewhat "period" set-up. I've chosen to continue with the post-war flecktarn camouflage pattern....

He also provided a fabric protective patch (for the coyote brown cordura holster pictured in the images at the beginning of this thread) that covers the back surface of the metal gripper of the safety strap's snap, which I had removed to preclude finish scratching Charles Danner's superb rust blueing finish. I can now have a higher degree of retentiveness with that holster should I choose to use the safety strap with it (such as when carrying in the field where the holstered gun might be subject to jouncing around, should I ever choose to do so).

I agree with kurusu's comments vis-a-vis the Stoegar/Mitchell AIMCO stainess steel Luger reproductions. They do not enjoy a stellar reputation for operability, and as I recall they require their own specific magazines-if that's correct, I would assume that they're far harder to get than vintage "true" Luger magazines or modern MecGar Luger magazines, due to the limited production of the stainless steel Lugers. Back in the day, Gun Tests magazine concurrently tested one of the AIMCO-produced Lugers against a Mauser-produced and a DWM-produced Lugers, and it did not fare well...

Best, Jon


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