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cirelaw 03-20-2014 07:55 PM

Seiger no luck with your method. Holding mag in left and covered with a face cloth allows you to use your protected thumb to not only draw down but hold down next to no effort as you load with your free hand~ it really works and the only way for me!!! Try it!!!

JTD 03-20-2014 08:13 PM

neil's tool pics
 
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works great

lugerholsterrepair 03-21-2014 12:17 AM

Eric, Neil Young makes a loader that looks nothing like the original skate key, but works fantastic!!! Made for use, not show. He may have an extra one for sale, I do not know for sure, but ask, and you will see.....
He gave me one at the SOS, and it is pretty slick!
The man is a master craftsman, John

Fantastic! Yes..Neil is a fine craftsman..I didn't know he made these though!

ithacaartist 03-21-2014 01:21 AM

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John, there's a "lip" inside the hole for the follower, right?

Eric, this might just do the job for you!

Here's the one I made for the mags for my Erma KGP69, contoured to the side of the mag, it works great. (In NY State, we're not supposed to load a mag with more than seven rounds, unless at a range or competition.)

JTD 03-21-2014 05:55 AM

Yes, their is a lip inside the hole. Jerry, I wish you could have been present there this year. There was much good discussion. Virginia? John & Mike

Neil Young 03-21-2014 08:43 AM

Yeah Jerry, I found the regular loading tool not too comfortable to use, so I decided to try to make one that was easier on the thumb. I think it worked out okay. While I was set up, I made a few extras. I don't plan on making any more though.

Sieger 03-21-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 252108)
Seiger no luck with your method. Holding mag in left and covered with a face cloth allows you to use your protected thumb to not only draw down but hold down next to no effort as you load with your free hand~ it really works and the only way for me!!! Try it!!!

Hi,

I can not load a full 8 rounds in a Luger magazine by holding it, freehand, in my left hand, while loading it, bullet by bullet with my right hand.

Different strokes for different folks, as they said in the 1970s, I guess.


Sieger

cirelaw 03-27-2014 10:28 AM

Perfection By Neil Young!
 
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Neil sent me his loading tool made specically for lugers. It fits like a glove. The beauty is its simplicity~ No problem filling an entire mag!! Won't slip off! My Hero TKS ~~Eric

John Sabato 03-27-2014 11:58 AM

:thumbup: way to go Neil!

cirelaw 03-27-2014 03:39 PM

Don't Buy The One On Midway!!
 
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Definitly A great way cool luger tool!! Years ago I purchased this worthless piece of## from Midway! Its still being sold today! Its not sized for luger and never was!! "Caveat Emptor" Buyer Beware!! Eric

cirelaw 05-02-2014 07:12 PM

This week I'm fireing my first luger that George sent me. I tried out the loader and it work perfect! I'll take some pictures. Tks to all for your generous support!~~Eric

ChrisLL 05-02-2014 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 252127)
John, there's a "lip" inside the hole for the follower, right?

Eric, this might just do the job for you!

Here's the one I made for the mags for my Erma KGP69, contoured to the side of the mag, it works great. (In NY State, we're not supposed to load a mag with more than seven rounds, unless at a range or competition.)

ithicaartist - what material is that made from? May try making one myself. I have one from a Bersa 380 that works fine, but it is the type that you push down, load one shell, lift up, slide shell back, repeat; not quite as convenient as the follower style.

cirelaw 05-02-2014 08:26 PM

I'm not sure what medal he use. Its solid maybe steel. We have to ask Neil my hero!!

ithacaartist 05-02-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisLL (Post 254147)
ithicaartist - what material is that made from? May try making one myself...

Chris, It's plain ol' mild steel, mig welded curved handle, ground to fit the thumb comfortably and ground on the back side to match the contours of these mags. KGP 69 factory mags have a concave channel instead of straight flat sides, and the factory loading tool kept slipping off, mostly 'cause it's flat on the back side, with nothing to keep it lined up/oriented. Also, the originals have a simple hole punched in them for the follower button. Experience showed that a little bit of a lip, like the Luger loading tools, keeps it hooked on; so my creation has one. It is thinner than the Luger tool's lip because there's not as much clearance behind the Erma follower buttons. If you don't have a mill to offset the hole, thereby creating the "lip", just go at it with a carbide bit on a Dremel or Foredom.

The lovely fire-blue/blackened color came right out of the toaster oven, set on "toast" for 10-15 min.

George Anderson 05-02-2014 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 254144)
This week I'm fireing my first luger that George sent me. I tried out the loader and it work perfect! I'll take some pictures. Tks to all for your generous support!~~Eric

Eric, remember...first loading. Only two rounds!

cirelaw 05-02-2014 10:12 PM

Got it tks

ChrisLL 05-02-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 254152)
Chris, It's plain ol' mild steel, mig welded curved handle, ground to fit the thumb comfortably and ground on the back side to match the contours of these mags. KGP 69 factory mags have a concave channel instead of straight flat sides, and the factory loading tool kept slipping off, mostly 'cause it's flat on the back side, with nothing to keep it lined up/oriented. Also, the originals have a simple hole punched in them for the follower button. Experience showed that a little bit of a lip, like the Luger loading tools, keeps it hooked on; so my creation has one. It is thinner than the Luger tool's lip because there's not as much clearance behind the Erma follower buttons. If you don't have a mill to offset the hole, thereby creating the "lip", just go at it with a carbide bit on a Dremel or Foredom.

The lovely fire-blue/blackened color came right out of the toaster oven, set on "toast" for 10-15 min.

I like it, looks like it works great and has a lot of character. Love the heat/coloring treatment! Good suggestion on the lip, I imagine that makes a big difference. Thanks.

cirelaw 05-02-2014 10:18 PM

Somebody has to go commercial. The one they sell is a cheap piece of crap!

John Sabato 05-06-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 254157)
Somebody has to go commercial. The one they sell is a cheap piece of ship!!!!

Eric, sometimes your unintentional misspellings are a blessing in disguise :cheers: :thumbup:

... I hate having to edit someone else's posts because they slipped and let a "bad" word get posted... :)

cirelaw 05-06-2014 11:37 AM

John I intentionaly typed "ship" in deference and respect to all and changed my post! It was still a rip off!~~~Eric


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