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TheRomanhistorian 02-09-2014 11:27 AM

It's a real pity that Norinco didn't make a new Luger in more useful quantities. It seems like someone had to have one (pity it wasn't me!).

As an aside: Seeing that crisp 'Made in China' on a Luger would amuse me as much as seeing the Chinese characters for 'Made in Germany' on a Broomhandle. Historical perspective should make us giggle a bit.

Sergio Natali 02-09-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRomanhistorian (Post 249625)
It's a real pity that Norinco didn't make a new Luger in more useful quantities. It seems like someone had to have one (pity it wasn't me!).

As an aside: Seeing that crisp 'Made in China' on a Luger would amuse me as much as seeing the Chinese characters for 'Made in Germany' on a Broomhandle. Historical perspective should make us giggle a bit.

You are right, but C-96 were a German product, made in Germany and sold also to the Chinese market, so they had to write "Made in Germany" in ideograms.

Instead, being a bit of a purist, (I know I'm a bit boring too) it turns my guts to see a 1911 with "made in China" (or even in Switzerland, or Italy if you prefer) written on it!

:nono:

Ben M. 02-09-2014 04:24 PM

took me some time to find the gun but here is a link so you can sees the photos. seems crudely made. checkering is flat on knobs.
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...552db664283ed9

Sieger 02-09-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 249428)
Cute! this is number 1002, 1001 resides in Belgium and I handled and photographed it for our book a few years ago. According to Norconia, the firm's representative in Germany, only 2 were made and one was supposedly damaged during tests.

Hi,

Is there any reason these didn't go into active production?

What happened to the machinery used to manufacture them?

Sieger

sheepherder 02-09-2014 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by saab-bob (Post 249435)
Mauro
I see they gave you credit for your wonderful book!

Simpson's sells the book. :)

They also sell just the CD separately. ;)

Sergio Natali 02-10-2014 04:56 AM

Who could buy a Norinco Luger made in 1990 for about 2k Dollars?
Maybe it's me, but I cannot really understand it.

CJS57 02-10-2014 08:15 AM

A collector who wants every maker of a Luger. Or a Norinco collector looking for every model made. It was well worth the $2000. I would give that to resell for more.

cirelaw 02-10-2014 08:19 AM

Reguarding China
 
Is there anything sacred?

Dwight Gruber 02-10-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nukem556 (Post 249366)
.....one wonders if this might be a gun that will significantly increase in value, or just be seen as an oddity?

Yes.

And thanks very much for the notification.

--Dwight

TheRomanhistorian 02-10-2014 11:02 PM

I would agree with the more positive comments in this thread. As a historian of antiquity and a collector, I appreciate thoughts of some who do not see the point of 'non-genuine' things (though I question what 'non-genuine' or 'not pure' might mean) but different strokes for different folks. A Norinco Luger would have been interesting in mass production and thank you for telling us about it, nukem556. Had I the money then I would certainly have liked it in my own collection as a representation of the enduring fascination people have with the Luger. If Mauser and Norinco could have made an affordable product available even better. Alas, all we have is their aftermath.

Curss 02-11-2014 01:29 AM

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If Mauser and Norinco could have made an affordable product available even better. Alas, all we have is their aftermath.
Maybe one day, somebody will tool up and remake the P08 once more. I know if a company remade them I'd buy at least two, one to plink with and one for parts for my older guns.

Dwight Gruber 02-11-2014 10:22 AM

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Norinco P08 1002 has a new home

--Dwight

Edward Tinker 02-11-2014 10:29 AM

oh gosh, a member of the forum, who collects lugers - i found the thread a bit humorous from folks who were dogging out 'whomever' bought the Norinco and I knew all along.

I would love to have bought it - it is a unique item that was literally a prototype - those who don't like it because the Chinese made it, I suggest you look at the labels in your house ;)

I would not mind a 'side' collection of each manufacturer

Norme 02-11-2014 10:39 AM

Congratulations Dwight, you've got yourself a very rare and interesting Luger. Is that a million Yuan chip under the safety lever?
Best regards, Norm

Curss 02-11-2014 11:34 AM

Dwight, if you ever decide to shoot it, please include a range report. I would like to hear how a chinese Luger functions. And congrats! I am envious of your new edition!

John Sabato 02-11-2014 12:55 PM

Congrats Dwight. Thanks for sharing. A truely unique Luger pistol. And if you think about it, possibly the LAST P.08 ever manufactured, eh?

John Sabato 02-11-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme (Post 249751)
... Is that a million Yuan chip under the safety lever?
Best regards, Norm

Good one Norme... :roflmao:

I wonder how interchangeable the parts are with German made Lugers?

Dwight Gruber 02-11-2014 02:19 PM

Norme, "million Yuan chip", made me chuckle.

Curss, haven't decided if I will test fire it. It looks like it has been fired maybe once, and it is truly in 100% condition.

John, parts interchangeablity occurred to me, and it is certainly one of the first things I will check out. Also, I think the special edition Krieghoff probably holds the distinction of Last P08.

--Dwight

alvin 02-11-2014 07:24 PM

This one is much rarer than postwar Krieghoff. Those crazy Krieghoffs ... cost a lot.

nukem556 02-11-2014 08:13 PM

Dwight , you sly dog!!! Congrats.....I'm looking on the bright side and seeing it as you saving me 2K, but I bet in 10 years or so, you may have the la$t laugh! :thumbup:


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