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sheepherder 11-12-2012 12:44 PM

You say 'locally' but have no location in your profile...So we don't know if you have local sales tax...Or if you're buying from a dealer or an individual...

But...If it was here in my state from a dealer I'd have to pay an extra 8% sales tax...From an individual, no sales tax...And no FFL fees...And no S&H fees...

It's a bird in the hand...Is it worth two in the bush??? ;)

Ajruger 11-12-2012 01:51 PM

Sorry about that, Memphis TN and it is from an individual.

Thanks

Ajruger 11-12-2012 01:53 PM

oh and the sales tax here is 9.25.

sheepherder 11-12-2012 02:28 PM

Go to the bank, get 9 $100 bills, offer him $800...Go to $850/$900 if you have to...If he doesn't go for it, say Thank You and walk away... ;)

Sometimes you eat the bear...Sometimes the bear eats you... :D

DavidJayUden 11-12-2012 02:40 PM

Am I missing something here? Are we talking about a matching WW2 Mauser Luger, with matching mag, very little bluing wear, good grips, no rust, no pitting, it isn't chrome plated, etc. And you 2 are going to argue with the seller because he wants $1000? For God's sake, give me the seller's number and I'll buy it. And I'm proudly known, far and wide, as a bottom feeding cheapskate.
dju

sheepherder 11-12-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 223165)
And you 2 are going to argue with the seller because he wants $1000?

I think it's called 'negotiating'...And it's part of the total experience... ;)

Some would say it's part of the 'fun'...

Norme 11-12-2012 03:25 PM

Hi Andrew, I agree with David. Buy the gun for $1,000.00 and pay the sales tax. You're getting a great deal and Tennessee needs the money. Regards, Norm

ithacaartist 11-12-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme (Post 223169)
Hi Andrew, I agree with David. Buy the gun for $1,000.00 and pay the sales tax. You're getting a great deal and Tennessee needs the money. Regards, Norm

+1 $1k seems like a price that would be very fair to you; be careful not to "negotiate" yourself right out of a deal! Walking away from this one would seem like a waste of shoe leather (sorry, postie).

sheepherder 11-12-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 223171)
(sorry, postie).

No problemo!

I suppose you all pay whatever a salesman quotes as the sale price??? :rolleyes:

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Why would he have to pay sales tax if he's buying from an individual??? I'm in NYS and if you buy a handgun from an individual, there is no place to pay the 'sales tax'. The pistol permit office won't take it, and there is no walk-in sales tax office listed in the phone book...Only dealers have to charge/file sales tax...

Ajruger 11-12-2012 05:14 PM

Sounds good. thanks for the advice and persuasion.

DavidJayUden 11-12-2012 06:49 PM

Postino:
No, to the contrary I always try to get the best deal that I can. Always. However $1000 is very reasonable for that gun, so I'd not want to take a hard line on the dealings. Offer him $900 cash, hymm and haw a little bit, and buy the gun. Regardless.
But that issue of sales tax does frost my ----. 9+% is high, and unless he is a dealer or has a sales tax number, it seems unnecessary. Here in Nebr. it is the duty of the buyer to report the out-of -state or private purchase to the County Treasurer, and pay the sales tax at that time. But only a licensed dealer has the tax number and is expected to collect the tax. But I'm sure all states are diff.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy this Luger, and may it be your first of many.
dju

Ajruger 11-12-2012 07:47 PM

Well just bought it. Just need to meet and trade $900 and its mine. I'm pretty excited since I have been wanting one for a decade now. I appreciate all the help, input and guidance. I promise to take better pictures when I get it.

Thanks again

ithacaartist 11-13-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 223173)
No problemo!

I suppose you all pay whatever a salesman quotes as the sale price??? :rolleyes:

Well, it depends. If it's a used car or similarly marketed item, then no. If it's a genuine article and they're asking half price, straight up, then much more likely.

I think a moderate approach was appropriate and it turned out successful here in this deal. I'd have been concerned that an $800 counter offer might have bordered on the insulting; and if the seller discovered the ultimate worth of the pistol afterwards, there might be hard feelings. I think any seller will entertain a counter offer to their asking price, at which point they can counter with a new asking price; yup, negotiation. I feel it's OK to get a really good price by negotiating for something, but would feel weird about coming away too successful as a result of a seller's ignorance. But there is plenty of middle ground and room for rationalization! Presuming the seller is an adult, it's really up to them to do the research to determine what they are selling, or get some help doing it. A seller's failure to use due diligence this way will reap its own reward, likely in a reduced price. I'd just try to stop short of robbing war widows, etc.

Anyway, a handsome pistol...I'd have bought it( though I might have paid $100 more for it!:rolleyes:) with little hesitation.

sheepherder 11-13-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 223192)
I think a moderate approach was appropriate and it turned out successful here in this deal.l...I'd have bought it( though I might have paid $100 more for it!:rolleyes:) with little hesitation.

I like to give a low-ball cash price [show the cash, not a check] to see how frantic they are to sell... :rolleyes:

All kidding aside, there's a thread in the Krieghoff forum (IIRC) about a member who bought two Lugers from a guy standing near the wall at a gun show...It makes interesting reading... ;)

Norme 11-13-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 223173)

I suppose you all pay whatever a salesman quotes as the sale price??? :rolleyes:

Hi Rich, I negotiate prices for a living, and I have to tell you that until you have dealt with Iranians and Indians, who have developed chiseling into an art form over many centuries, you don't know what negotiating is. However, when someone offers me something for half what it's worth, I pay the asking price and say "thank you".
Best regards, Norm

sheepherder 11-13-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme (Post 223194)
However, when someone offers me something for half what it's worth, I pay the asking price and say "thank you".

I've done that too...and then ran like hell... :p

(Is that American Indians or India Indians???)

Ajruger 11-13-2012 09:46 PM

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Also I am not able to upload multiple pics per reply?

Anyways here they are and thanks again

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