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deepdarkwoodsman 11-30-2011 03:50 PM

I agree with you, Ron. I have been following this thread and I haven't been completely convinced this is a reblue.

Doug

DavidJayUden 11-30-2011 04:46 PM

Is this one blue on the muzzle and under the safety?
dju

Ron Wood 11-30-2011 05:16 PM

According to Mike, the safety area is blued...hence his assessment that it is a reblue. I would again withhold judgment until I saw a good photo of the safety area. Many bright polished safety areas on early guns have darkened over time, so a close gun in hand examination is needed if a photo is not conclusive.

Hugo Borchardt 11-30-2011 10:53 PM

Very nice test piece! Congratulations! Ron was this number already on Dwights list?

MFC 12-01-2011 08:42 PM

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Pics of the reblue...
Safety area
Barrel
Toggle lock catch on frame rail. You should be able to see the solder lines on an original finish.

sheepherder 12-02-2011 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MFC (Post 203937)
Toggle lock catch on frame rail. You should be able to see the solder lines on an original finish.

That's interesting...What parts are soldered on that toggle lock (or catch)???

alanint 12-02-2011 06:51 AM

The part is dovetailed into the frame but is silver soldered into place upon fitting. There is usually a dicernable line at the metal/metal joint where the solder is visible.

cirelaw 12-02-2011 08:51 AM

What are you referring to!!
 
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Heres up and down!

John Sabato 12-02-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugo Borchardt (Post 203912)
Very nice test piece! Congratulations! Ron was this number already on Dwights list?


Hey Ron, (or Dwight?) Just in case you missed this question...

Was this serial number already on the list?

MFC 12-02-2011 10:07 AM

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toggle lock latch on frame rail...

cirelaw 12-02-2011 11:12 AM

Imagine That!
 
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An Ansel Adams Moment!

cirelaw 12-02-2011 11:40 AM

This Is Your Normal Wear Pattern
 
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It will show up if the gun was fired. Its more pronounced as the gun is used. Next to no wear, is questionable!

Ron Wood 12-02-2011 11:50 AM

It was not on my list, I don't know about Dwight's but we usually are in sync.

cirelaw 12-02-2011 12:02 PM

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This is an unfired or recently reblued. In this case is a 1937 Krieghoff which doesnt appear to be used! A picture of the rear will tell everything.

Lugerdoc 12-03-2011 12:08 PM

There appears to be some damage to the left side frame ramp of the M1900. The frame piece of the toggle lock looks normal, although I do have this piece in stock if needed. TH

MFC 12-03-2011 08:19 PM

Tom,
Are you refering to Eric's (cirelaw) or mine? I don't see any damage to either one.

Dwight Gruber 12-06-2011 07:41 PM

New number.

Also, I'm not entirely sure the toggle latch is silver soldered. I was always under the impression that it is a hard-press fit sufficient to compress the metal surface enough to cause the halo effect.

--Dwight

Ron Wood 12-07-2011 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber (Post 204126)
Also, I'm not entirely sure the toggle latch is silver soldered. I was always under the impression that it is a hard-press fit sufficient to compress the metal surface enough to cause the halo effect.

--Dwight

You may very well be correct. But I have never seen the halo effect without some deformation of the adjacent metal. The area around the toggle latch is dead flat. I am not entirely sure either but I err on the side of silver solder.

alanint 12-07-2011 06:13 AM

I doubt any assembly that was designed to have a toggle hook violently yanking on it on a regular basis would be simply press fitted in. I have always believed they were silver soldered in, which would have been the practice at that time and could be reversed with heat.

Lugerdoc 12-07-2011 10:06 AM

Dwight, I agree with you --- just a tight fit in the dove tail cut. I've removed and installed several of these. The toggle lock was originally designed to prevent the toggle from opening prematurely on recoil, but it was later determined that cartridge ignition actually force the toggle DOWN into the frame, so the lock was unnecessary and eliminated on the M1906. Just another example of German over-engineering. TH


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