Clart I think this part of history is facinating. Do we know who supplied the takedown tooks. Were the made by DWM and shiped with the guns? Where any technical training charts or manual printed or surplied?

Eric:

I haven't seen actual records, but Reese (U.S. Test Trials/1900 Luger p.27) states that:

The pistols and magazines, along with accessories (cleaning rods, pin punches and takedown tools) were shipped to Governor Island, New York.

So I guess so! Since the test holster has no accommodation for cleaning rod, extra mag, punch or takedown tool, I guess it is no wonder we don't see these as they were scattered who knows where.

Clark

Clark

A rock Island Ammo Pouch
 

From the same time evidencing the markings J.M.G. initualed

Datig states on p67 The BOF approved the recommendations contained in the test report and directed that steps should be taken to carry them out,1000 pistols of identical deseign to the test samples. and 200,000 rounds of ammunition to be purchased from DWM, Berlin, $15,00 was allocated from available funds for this purchase. The pistols and ammunition were to be delivered to New Yorks' Arsenal Governors' Island, New York City. They were to be fowarded to Springfield Armory for acceptance. The pistols were to be distributed 5 per troop of calvery and 100 were to be retained for test by Light Artillery troops, issue to officers at West Point, and for general experimentation......On April 15, 1901 The Commanding Officer of Springfield Armory was officially directed to make the purchase. The Possibility of Frankfurt Arsenal manufacturing the ammunition haveing been ruled out.Rock Island Arsenalmwas directed to fabricate a sufficiant quanty of russet or black leather holsters, and it is beleived, a sufficient of hardened steel combination tools. Tauscher supplied samples for use in designed holsters, p68

Nice photos. That cartridge box is in much nicer condition than mine.

I need a copy of Fred Datig's book and also a copy of Meadows book.

You also asked if any documentation was provided. I thought I read somewhere they came with a short manual, but I can't find the reference. I believe another forum member offered to sell me an extra original copy one time and I neglected to take him up on it.

Clark

I can lend you his blue hardbound. Its where all his update and revision are included!

Meadows book is the most comprehensive reference available IMO.

Ron I would like to find a copy! What title should I look for?

Ron I just found some really great research and information that You and Jan have already published and are right at our laps. I know of no better sources anywhere. All one has to do is use the 'searh' option for test luger/ holster. I am very proud to walk in Your shadows. It is definitly time for a singular source/book to add it all up!!!

Edward Scott Meadows, U.S. Military Automatic Pistols 1894-1920, ISBN Number 0-9618191-4

Thank Ron, How many are you up to +/ or minus?

How many of what? If you mean recorded Test Luger serial numbers, see my earlier post in this same thread.

Yes and Yes, I must commend You and your devotion!!

I had to take a peek! Heres a beautiful thing!#6786

Eric:

Thanks for the excellent photos of an excellent example! Responded to your PM!

Clark

has #6786 been refinished? I thought the frame under the grips and the bottom of the extension rails should be white

Nope she a virgin! Ill post the 2 vertal lines under the toggle tommorow.

Yes The inside rails etc should be in the white. If not it has been reblued. Bill

Yep
 

Bare to the bone!

A 1906 frech and the 1900 test frame
 

Almost identical