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tomaustin 12-27-2010 10:27 PM

hey, pitsword....you are in the south of maine....life is good...
 
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A.Mifsin 01-03-2011 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme (Post 187384)
Leaving aside the great Russian/Bulgarian debate for another time, I'm amazed at how many really questionable Lugers are in this one collection - a veritable Luger rogues gallery! It's also disturbing that a previously highly respected auction house, like Greg Martin, would participate in this charade. It's probably no coincidence that GMA is holding this sale in Las Vegas. Regards, Norm

I am sorry Guys, you got me confused, is this Luger authentic or not? :confused:
Alf.

Norme 01-03-2011 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.Mifsin (Post 187750)
I am sorry Guys, you got me confused, is this Luger authentic or not? :confused:
Alf.

I'm sorry, Alf, my New Year's resolution was to never discuss Russian Lugers again. Someone else will have to answer your question. Regards, Norm.
P.S. If you have time on your hands, you can read this.
http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...hlight=russian

Ron Wood 01-03-2011 10:04 AM

Alf,
It is difficult to tell from the photos, but I see some indication it is not. I would need gun in hand to give a better assessment.
Ron

drbuster 01-03-2011 10:18 AM

Ron, of course, gives the best answer here pertaining to the luger in question. I feel that after reading Goertz & Sturgess's volume II, reading and participating in the mega Forum discussion, that the 1906 luger with crossed rifles on the chamber is indeed a genuine production luger that emanated from the DWM factory with some confused markings on it that may have well even confused the "brains" at DWM. Whether this luger was destined for the Russian military officer as a private purchase or rather to some Bulgarian military unit is where the confusion and debate arises. Of course this will never be finally settled as no actual factory or sales records exist. Read it all and make your own clonclusions.

A.Mifsin 01-03-2011 11:35 AM

Thank You Guys. :cheers:
Alf.:thumbup:

pitsword 01-03-2011 12:59 PM

I apologize for posting "lobster" distraction earlier.
pitsword

Norme 01-03-2011 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben M. (Post 187805)
Seems like when there is a Russian Luger discussion at that other Luger site, it stirs up a big "Pavlovian" response

And it makes a "Maltese Cross".

lugerholsterrepair 01-03-2011 08:52 PM

Punny!

A.Mifsin 01-04-2011 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme (Post 187806)
And it makes a "Maltese Cross".

Not an original Maltese Cross.:rolleyes:
Alf.

Hugo Borchardt 01-11-2011 11:24 AM

I received my full-color catalogue for this auction a couple weeks ago and just got around to reviewing it. There is an example of almost every "test" Luger - American, Peruvian, Venezualian, Japanese Navy, Russian etc. etc. plus an A&F. Almost every one of them says "Excellent as refinished/restored" or "with evidence of touch up" or "with evidence of added finish". In addition, many others look to good to be true for uncommon variants. This is quite disturbing indeed. A couple of pieces strongly pique my interest, such as the AE Test with the holster and the cased 1906 commercial with the english distributor marked barrel, but I am going to stay away from this one.

Clark

saab-bob 01-11-2011 12:13 PM

Clark

I was looking at the auction catalog as well and noticed the same thing. My take on any test weapon is that you beat it to death. That way, you see how it performs under different severe conditions. The term "test luger" and excellent original condition does not correlate to me.:confused:

To bad they are not selling the ultra rare "Djibouti test luger". I would be bidding big!:roflmao:

Bob


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