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sheepherder 05-11-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieger (Post 159141)

2) AOL, AOL, AOL!!! Violate this little rule and you Luger will never shoot reliably!!!!

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis??? :eek:

Sieger 05-11-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino (Post 159144)
Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis??? :eek:

You are funny!

Sieger

alterfritz 05-11-2009 11:51 PM

I can feel your pain Huntmaster, I bought a luger for the same reason and had the same problems. One magazine was good, the other gave me constant jams, often the old cartridge was not ejected and the new one got stuck with the toggle open.
I suggest you contact G.T. here in the forum.
He helped me with mecgar magazines I bought online, put stronger springs in it and such. My luger now shoots fine with 4 magazines and I'm happy I made the investment

Vlim 05-12-2009 12:46 PM

Roger that,

My 1937 S/42 / VoPo shooter has performed flawlessly for several years now. Fresh springs, MecGar magazines, S&B 124gr 9x19 and no noticable problems whatsoever.

I recently got a batch of Winchester White Box 9mm and although it is good, the S/42 doesn't like it as much as the S&B. Let's say a 90% reliability score with Win, and a 99.9% reliability score with S&B.

(ah, and never load the mags to the max. 5 - 6 rounds always works well).

British car electronics are like Russian quality control, German humour and Dutch generosity: Not good :)

Sieger 05-12-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 159172)
Roger that,

My 1937 S/42 / VoPo shooter has performed flawlessly for several years now. Let's say a 90% reliability score with Win, and a 99.9% reliability score with S&B.

(ah, and never load the mags to the max. 5 - 6 rounds always works well).

Vlim:

With only 5 or 6 rounds loaded in the magazine, you are cheating, as most of the problems occur with the first three of a full 8 round magazine. Ha!

Do you know, by the way, the advertized velocity, in feet per second, of the 124 grain S&B ammo you have had success with?

Sieger

Vlim 05-12-2009 02:15 PM

Yes, we EU-victims are only allowed to have 5 rounds in the mags during practice, and 6 during Military Pistol shooting :)

Here ya go (it's in meters per second, though)
http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/pistol-...=9&product=172

360 m/s =/= 1181 fps.

Sieger 05-12-2009 02:29 PM

S&B 124 gr.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 159178)
Yes, we EU-victims are only allowed to have 5 rounds in the mags during practice, and 6 during Military Pistol shooting :)

Here ya go (it's in meters per second, though)
http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/pistol-...=9&product=172

360 m/s =/= 1181 fps.

Vlim:

I quess you are fortunate to be "allowed" to have a pistol at all in the E.U. Unfortunately, liberals and socialists don't like firearms. Why, I haven't figured out, as they are usually the first victims when a government goes "wrong".

Per the original DWM and later Mauser manuals, the S&B ammo does appear a bit high 1181 v 1076 (or 9.7% higher than the original loading).

With the proper springs, however, this shouldn't be a problem in operation.

As always, thanks!

Sieger

unspellable 05-16-2009 08:47 AM

Sieger: Sent a message, no reply yet.

You can reach me at unspellable@yahoo.com among others.

sheepherder 05-16-2009 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 159178)
Here ya go (it's in meters per second, though)
http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/pistol-...=9&product=172

360 m/s =/= 1181 fps.

Isn't that a little "hot" for a Luger??? :eek:

(Ah; sorry - I see this has already been commented on...) :thumbup:

Lugerdoc 05-17-2009 09:04 AM

HM,It sounds as though your barrel is the original 9mm one originally installed in 1914. If it has been relined to 7.65mm for some reason, it's possible that you still have the 19 turn WW1 9mm recoil spring installed. Perhaps an original 17 turn 7.65mm spring would solve your feed problems, but as mentioned above, there are many other factors that may be responcable. TH

HuntMaster 05-17-2009 11:09 AM

Thanks for the reply, LugerDoc. I'll have to check that out.
Upon examining the mag installed in the pistol, it looks like there is a 1/8" gap between the lip of the mag and the feedramp on the barrel. I'll have to wait until the next gun show ( 1st weekend in June) to try another mag to see if this gap is normal unless some of you can tell me up front.
The guy I got the pistol from just gave me a Luger holster with the markings dLv 41 and a waffenampt stamp on it. Not the best condition in the world, but I am glad to have it. Would love to know it's history.
How did this get to be a classic bike thread?

HuntMaster 05-17-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lugerdoc (Post 159405)
HM,It sounds as though your barrel is the original 9mm one originally installed in 1914. If it has been relined to 7.65mm for some reason, it's possible that you still have the 19 turn WW1 9mm recoil spring installed. Perhaps an original 17 turn 7.65mm spring would solve your feed problems, but as mentioned above, there are many other factors that may be responcable. TH

Hello Lugerdoc. I took the grips off and counted the coils on the spring in the frame. ( I'll show my ignorance here by saying I suppose this is the recoil spring you mentioned). Actually, I counted 20 coils. Again, I will have to wait for the next show to see if I can find a 7.65 spring, and a different mag .
Question- are the mec-gar mags of reasonable replacement quality? And how much would be a reasonable price for a correct spring?
Also, upon examinig the underside of my grips, one of them says " made in Italy". Is this common? or am I running in to a " robbed parts" pistol. The grips appear very old, as if they came with the gun.

HuntMaster 05-19-2009 07:13 PM

Update- I tried a new mag today and still have the same problem. I believe it's the recoil spring now. So I've got to find a 7.65 spring. Any suggestions on a supplier?

Vlim 05-19-2009 07:32 PM

Tom Heller :)

HuntMaster 05-19-2009 10:46 PM

Ordered a spring from Tom Heller tonight. Easy guy to talk with. Offered some tips, and answered a few questions for me.
I know a lot of things about a lot of guns, but Luger is not one of them- neither is the P-38. I am beginning to get a grasp of it though, and am learning more every day.
Thanks for the welcome and input,guys.
HM
(Derek)

Lugerdoc 05-20-2009 09:21 AM

HM, I'm holding a couple of original 7.65mm luger springs for you to try. TH

HuntMaster 05-20-2009 08:05 PM

Thanks, Lugerdoc. Payment sent this a.m. .

FNorm 05-20-2009 09:56 PM

I didn't see anyone answer so: The small 8,83 you see is the distance between the lands in mm. they usually run from 8,82 - 8,86.

HuntMaster 05-28-2009 06:47 PM

A big THANKS to you guys, and especially Lugerdoc. He was right on the money- the mainspring was the culprit of my troubles. I counted 21 coils on the original spring in my pistol, Lugerdoc recommended to try a 17 coil spring. I got it today, installed(fun) ,and tried it out.
It now operates flawlessly with 93gr Fiocchi rounds. Lesson for those who do not know- avoid Kinematics Research reman loads- they still do not cycle the toggle back far enough to eject and chamber the next round.
I will now try to figure out how to post pics on the new member forum to show off my humble pistol.
Also got to get someone to tell me about the holster that came with it.
Again, Thanks!
Auf wedersehen,
HM

Sieger 05-29-2009 02:28 AM

HuntMaster:

Please see your Private Message.

Sieger


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