"Any advice about how to handle the problem would be reviewed"

Call Mike Krause.

--Dwight

Pete and Dwight, Mike Krause does indeed have a manufacturer's license so technically his is a "factory".

Re: Re: .45 Luger
 

Lieber Freund tac:

Sehr interessant!

Was nur gibt es?

Sieger

.45Luger
 

Dear Ed:

Does the spent .45 case have the same "step" from the forward chamber as the 9MMs due?

Sieger

Re: .45Luger
 

not sure... I am in Philly and it is near Denver. It was "modern" (hence 1960's ??) 45 ACP ammo that was used and shot and functioned correctly from the article I read. The problem I read in the books on the ammo from the time, was that it was not reliable from Frankfurt (USA) arsenal.


Ed

ED, I understand that the original M1907 DWM .45 lugers, and probably Mike K's repros, were designed to operate properly on German made DM .45 ammo and did not function reliably with the US made ammo. I'd be interested in the head stamp marking on your spent round, if one of the German made ones. TH

I visited Mr. Krause's shop in San Mateo in May of 2002. I examined a .45 luger he had there at the time and asked several question about them. His guns are chambered for standard .45ACP. The gun I handled had been fired, it had grips with the plain border, in the style of Swiss made lugers.
"The Luger Story" by John Walter indicates Georg Luger had ammo made due to the erratic pressure and general poor quality of the Frankford arsenal .45 ammo.
My recent experience with an Interarms 29/70 in 9mm makes me think that the pressure curve may be critical in a luger as well.

Mike

Tom,

All of the rounds fired from the .45 Luger in 1960 was US made ammo. I still have most of the brass. I know some if not all are REM-UMC. I will check and see if there are any other manufactors.

Mike Jones

Mike,

While you are at it, it would be good if you could check the casing surface to see if it has the characteristic ring the stepped chamber leaves on 9mm cases.

--Dwight

Dwight,

Mike Jones was very kind to send me one of the .45 casings and letter as well.

Mine is "REM-UMC 45 Auto" stamped and there are no surface rings visible with loupe magnification. No "step" in the shape of the casing, either.

Pete,

Thanks much. I believe that this tells us a significant, if miniscule, piece of informatinon about these guns.

--Dwight

Hi Dwight,

Can you make me smarter about the 'significant' portion...? Ballistically ???

If I were to second-guess what Dwight was indicating, I would think that it is interesting that Georg didn't employ his patented chamber step in the .45.

Ron second-guesses me correctly.

--Dwight

I wonder what firing that first shot would cost to the value 50 years from now, if anyone living cares.

Glen, welcome to the forum.. I have mixed feelings on things like this, have heard of folks owning a 1970 Boss mustang for 35 years and barely driving it, hoping to get the most money out of it. Then, all those years you never had "fun" with it...


Ed

Yes, I have a 1970 Mauser P08 7.65 MM (Not Swiss style) that is my only safe queen, I can't bear to shoot it, it was only fired at the factory. I believe they only made 5070 of them in that caliber. I'd love to buy a shooter.

oh, oh, now you'll make me laugh at myself, as I have a "few shooters" but a bunch of safe queens!

:)

Yes, I have a 1970 Mauser P08 7.65 MM (Not Swiss style) that is my only safe queen, I can't bear to shoot it, it was only fired at the factory. I believe they only made 5070 of them in that caliber. I'd love to buy a shooter.

Wow, hit it twice, sorry.