45 ACP Luger model that you want the most

[lfid]

Hi Lugerman ,
thanks for your efforts for the 45 gap conversion and best of luck to you
and thanks for initiation of new discussions here on the forum re replica lugers

the discussed price point of $3K for 45 gap - does that include the donor luger ?

my interest is in custom target lugers like with heavier barrels and adjustable windage only rear sight welded or soldered onto the rear toggle and then the elevation adjustment in front sight

would you be interested in 45 gap or 9mm/30 luger target luger project ?

thanks
Bill

[LugerMan.com]

Originally Posted by lfid

Hi Lugerman ,
thanks for your efforts for the 45 gap conversion and best of luck to you
and thanks for initiation of new discussions here on the forum re replica lugers

the discussed price point of $3K for 45 gap - does that include the donor luger ?

my interest is in custom target lugers like with heavier barrels and adjustable windage only rear sight welded or soldered onto the rear toggle and then the elevation adjustment in front sight

would you be interested in 45 gap or 9mm/30 luger target luger project ?

thanks
Bill

Sure, custom projects are always fun.

We can do artillery style adjustments for elevation on the rear sight and left to right on the front .
I can build a custom toggle if need be.

I have seen old English conversions for target Lugers done that way, always wanted to do one like it.


45 GAP conversion will cost 2.5K with your donor.

Or 3K with my donor.

Simple math...

If interested email me , we can talk in more detail.

Thanks.

[LugerMan.com]

Originally Posted by lfid

my interest is in custom target lugers like with heavier barrels and adjustable windage only rear sight welded or soldered onto the rear toggle and then the elevation adjustment in front sight

would you be interested in 45 gap or 9mm/30 luger target luger project ?

thanks
Bill

I am just thinking out-loud,

But a Carbine rear sight on the barrel with added elevation adjustment screw like on artillery guns,
with a front sight like artillery or carbine post with left to right adjustment , may be an ultimate target Luger.

For flatter trajectory, it can be done in 30 Luger,

or to be used for longer range in 357 Sig maybe ?

[Michael Zeleny]

Originally Posted by LugerMan.com

I am just thinking out-loud,

But a Carbine rear sight on the barrel with added elevation adjustment screw like on artillery guns,
with a front sight like artillery or carbine post with left to right adjustment , may be an ultimate target Luger.

For flatter trajectory, it can be done in 30 Luger,

or to be used for longer range in 357 Sig maybe ?

My "ultimate target Luger" is a W+F 06/29 with a 200mm factory pencil barrel, part of the special run for the 1949 Olympics. If I had my druthers, I would replicate it scaled up for a stouter bottleneck cartridge (9x25 Dillon, or more realistically, .357 SIG), fitted optionally with an Artillery pattern stock. A Luger chambered for in .45 ACP, especially in a short-barreled configuration, is best approached as a manually-operated repeater.

[sheepherder]

I am only interested in custom-made Borchardt, not Luger, but I am curious if you have access to CNC workstation...and do solid model blueprint conversions...

I was hoping tennbill2 was into that and was going to make a small run of Borchardts...but that has not happened...

Over in CNCGuns Forum there are people who can take blueprint/engineering drawing and turn it into solid model for CNC workstation...

[LugerMan.com]

Originally Posted by postino

I am only interested in custom-made Borchardt, not Luger, but I am curious if you have access to CNC workstation...and do solid model blueprint conversions...

I was hoping tennbill2 was into that and was going to make a small run of Borchardts...but that has not happened...

Over in CNCGuns Forum there are people who can take blueprint/engineering drawing and turn it into solid model for CNC workstation...

if it was a question for me, then the answer is no, I run manual mill with DRO for now.

[alvin]

Exotic sight could go crazy. Hard to believe, but it's fact.

copyied from: http://www.rockislandauction.com/consignments_sold

[alvin]

DIY is fashionable now. I subscribed to Yahoo C96 forum, and noticed nowadays people are playing "drawings", "reverse engineering", "CNC", "AutoCAD", etc, etc.

For Borchardt, DIY makes more sense. Even a Borchardt in poor condition (hard to find) costs a lot. For regular Luger and C96 ?? I doubt it.

[alvin]

Another .45 Luger !!

http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/55/lid/3550

[alanint]

"Handmade" is right. Very crude and most important.......Vo ist das Safety????

[Patronen]

And the Magazin is a heel release

Dave

[John Sabato]

A very interesting and unique pistol. Obviously a One-OFF or prototype pistol. Quite a lot of work to create such a gun from scratch without blueprints. While not dimensionally exact to the original, it still could play a Luger on TV! ... I kinda like it! I wonder who bought it?

[guns3545]

Originally Posted by Ben M.

alvin,

i do not think it has been established, historically, that the # 2 pistol (old abermann gun) or the other one in the norton gallery were even at the trials.

You are correct there was only one gun there. And if you look at Ordnance Corps records and notes on the 1907 trial, you will read that there was only ONE gun ever submitted.

It was fired during several sequences by George Luger personally. Then subjected to sand tests and again fired. Then subjected to corrosive environment tests and fired. All by Luger himself. There is literally a shot by shot description of what happened to each round; both those provided by DWM and those made by Frankfort Arsenal.

At the conclusion of the test , a determination was made that the Luger would NOT be invited to proceed further and that only Colt and Savage would be invited. One of the stated reasons for not proceeding with DWM was that the powder used in their cartridge was not available in the USA.

Savage subsequently withdrew and that reopened the door for DWM who was offered a contract for 200, .45 caliber guns which after consideration they declined thus handing the contract to Colt who, after several more tests and design changes, was awarded the contract for the Model 1911 Colt in late 1911.

The three guns that we know about have differing specifications, the most major of which is the grip angle but there are other differences. But the record shows there was only ONE actual TEST gun submitted.

Now at this point I would normally say, JMVHO, but this time I can say that this is historical fact.

John