American Eagle Luger

sdmark777 · 02-24-2025, 12:41 PM

OK. I don't have the Sturgess book, so I can not see what you are looking at. But, perhaps it has a picture of the new grooved safety on a much later luger (one with gesichert) for comparison with the old checkered safety on serial #8592. Maybe Sturgess was lazy and did not include a pic of of the grooved safety on a 1900 with bare metal marking as would be less confusing. I am guessing the pic of the grooved safety with GESICHERT is not from serial # 8592. I don't know when GESICHERT started to be marked on the frame, but to my knowledge GESICHERT was not used until at least sometime after 1906. Am I wrong about that?

aldo35 · 02-24-2025, 04:39 PM

Hi,
Unfortunately this pistol has been touched up with, I am guessing, cold blue, to cover some worn .Perhaps the area under the safety was formerly shiny metal. I don't know and don't know what to do about cold blueing as it already detracts

Using a magnifying glass

The area under the safety is relieved, see picture #4, that I posted, but it has been cold blued. There doesn't appear the word "gesichert" was ever there.

Hope this helps
Aldo

Doubs · 02-24-2025, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdmark777

OK. I don't have the Sturgess book, so I can not see what you are looking at. But, perhaps it has a picture of the new grooved safety on a much later luger (one with gesichert) for comparison with the old checkered safety on serial #8592. Maybe Sturgess was lazy and did not include a pic of of the grooved safety on a 1900 with bare metal marking as would be less confusing. I am guessing the pic of the grooved safety with GESICHERT is not from serial # 8592. I don't know when GESICHERT started to be marked on the frame, but to my knowledge GESICHERT was not used until at least sometime after 1906. Am I wrong about that?

Your model 1900 Luger is serial number 8293 and has the checkered safety lever and a bright polished safety marking. The model 1900 Luger in the G&S books is serial number 8592. At some unknown serial number between those two, a change was made to the design of the safety lever and "GESICHERT" added. I don't know how to say it any more clearly and this is my final word on the matter.

gunbugs · 02-24-2025, 06:02 PM

The 15,000 serial range 1900 I posted earlier has a grooved safety and an "in the white" safety marking. No Gesichert. I'm somewhat sure no 1900's were marked Gesichert. But I've been wrong before...

https://forum.lugerforum.com/attachm...1&d=1740438393

02-24-2025, 04:39 PM	#2
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 402 Thanks: 2,351 Thanked 187 Times in 92 Posts	American Eagle Luger Hi, Unfortunately this pistol has been touched up with, I am guessing, cold blue, to cover some worn .Perhaps the area under the safety was formerly shiny metal. I don't know and don't know what to do about cold blueing as it already detracts Using a magnifying glass The area under the safety is relieved, see picture #4, that I posted, but it has been cold blued. There doesn't appear the word "gesichert" was ever there. Hope this helps Aldo Last edited by aldo35; 02-24-2025 at 05:16 PM. Reason: add inof

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02-24-2025, 12:41 PM	#1
sdmark777 User Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 301 Thanks: 721 Thanked 705 Times in 186 Posts	OK. I don't have the Sturgess book, so I can not see what you are looking at. But, perhaps it has a picture of the new grooved safety on a much later luger (one with gesichert) for comparison with the old checkered safety on serial #8592. Maybe Sturgess was lazy and did not include a pic of of the grooved safety on a 1900 with bare metal marking as would be less confusing. I am guessing the pic of the grooved safety with GESICHERT is not from serial # 8592. I don't know when GESICHERT started to be marked on the frame, but to my knowledge GESICHERT was not used until at least sometime after 1906. Am I wrong about that?