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Unread 09-27-2018, 01:22 AM   #1
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I own a total of four .30 Luger pistols. The first one I acquired worked great with Fiocchi. The second had all manner of feeding and ejection issues with Fiocchi; I tried all kinds of mainspring and magazine modifications and it still wouldn't work. PPU completely cured all the issues. I then acquired two more .30 Luger pistols, and tested them with both types of ammo in the hope that they would work well with Fiocchi as it is more available. I learned these next two were also jam-o-matics with Fiocchi but loved PPU. In studying the matter not only is PPU a bit more powerful than Fiocchi, the overall length is also longer which seems to make a big difference in eliminating feeding jams.

So 75% of my .30 Luger pistols insist on PPU. Look forward to hearing how yours performs.
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I own a total of four .30 Luger pistols. The first one I acquired worked great with Fiocchi. The second had all manner of feeding and ejection issues with Fiocchi; I tried all kinds of mainspring and magazine modifications and it still wouldn't work. PPU completely cured all the issues. I then acquired two more .30 Luger pistols, and tested them with both types of ammo in the hope that they would work well with Fiocchi as it is more available. I learned these next two were also jam-o-matics with Fiocchi but loved PPU. In studying the matter not only is PPU a bit more powerful than Fiocchi, the overall length is also longer which seems to make a big difference in eliminating feeding jams.

So 75% of my .30 Luger pistols insist on PPU. Look forward to hearing how yours performs.
4 Scale, thanks for the inputs. I was an "Operational Tester" by trade for a while. Glad to have a few more data points indicating that PPU is somehow the magical round that most lugers crave; at least the 7.65s.
I did not know that the overall length is longer than the Fiocchi!? Is this information available in some Tech/Spec sheets from either Manufacturer? I was looking for Ft Lbs and Muzzle Energy last night and data was NOT at vendors websites and any other info I got from Ammo dealers had a bit of variance. I will measure length when the PPU arrives and compare to the Fiocchi and see what my lots say. Cheers
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I did not know that the overall length is longer than the Fiocchi!?
The information was mentioned to me by forum member G.T. who is expert in many areas of Luger function, especially anything to do with magazines. I had asked him to help troubleshoot why the pistol would not function with Fiocchi. After receiving his information, I measured several rounds from both manufacturers and confirmed that yep, PPU is longer.
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The information was mentioned to me by forum member G.T. who is expert in many areas of Luger function, especially anything to do with magazines. I had asked him to help troubleshoot why the pistol would not function with Fiocchi. After receiving his information, I measured several rounds from both manufacturers and confirmed that yep, PPU is longer.
I've got a digital micrometer I use in other hobbies, will do another measurement of the two brands, post the results here. May not be same results others get but will be SAME micrometer comparing the two brands.
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