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[DonVoigt]

That jam is typical of "weak" Fiocchi and the problem is that the toggle does not come back all the way to pick up the next round.
Solution is "stronger" ammo like PPU, or weaker mainspring.

You can't fix it with a magazine. Too short OAL can compound the problem, but unless you get the toggle to full extension, it still won't work.

I'll bet the toggle does not lock open when you fire a single round either, a confirming symptom.

[K.Wilhelm]

For those of us who really like shooting the .30 Luger round there is really no good choice other than handloading. The bullets can be a bit of a challenge to find, but the brass is fairly easy. An add in the "want to buy" section would probably yield results. Single stage presses are readily available and cheap as are .30 Luger dies.


Anyway, the really great thing about handloading is you can easily adjust powder charges and over all lengths(oal) to fit your pistol perfectly. As Sieger and Rhuff taught me Lugers tend to like longer oal. Bill

[F15E_WSO]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

That jam is typical of "weak" Fiocchi and the problem is that the toggle does not come back all the way to pick up the next round.
Solution is "stronger" ammo like PPU, or weaker mainspring.

You can't fix it with a magazine. Too short OAL can compound the problem, but unless you get the toggle to full extension, it still won't work.

I'll bet the toggle does not lock open when you fire a single round either, a confirming symptom.

DV, so yesterday when I was not trying to cycle the second round; shooting one round at a time in magazine therefore empty mag when cycling the Hold Open was working, the toggle would stay back. At that point I felt that things were heading towards normal ops and I tried to rounds. Fiocchi makes a 765A and 765B, the alpha has FULL metal copper jacket, the bravo has the lead tip.

Of course I got the lead tip