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Unread 01-06-2018, 02:04 PM   #1
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I have to agree - although Krieghoff did reworks, so did Simson - so did scores of small companies, let alone DWM itself.

Besides with the grips and barrel, it could have been worked on by a gunsmith anytime after the 1920's.

Don - $500 for a 7.65mm? Please send me four, you have my address
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Unread 01-06-2018, 02:38 PM   #2
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In my part of the Country, that Luger will bring $750-850 without difficulty.
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Unread 01-06-2018, 02:58 PM   #3
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> but the date and original military markings have been removed.

Yes, this is correct.

>No way to guess what year the receiver was made; and the frame is likely not associated with the original receiver anyway. JMHO.

I think they are associated. They do have the same numbering 2510 and the number seems to been made with the same marking tool. Even the firing pin has a marking "10".

>It was likely assembled in Suhl between the wars, but no particular connection to Kreighoff, as the Suhl proof marks were applied by the proof house to any and all lugers submitted to them for proofing.

Yes, The Krieghoff horizontal C/N proof is smaller. Based on the crude rework workmanship it is not Krieghoff. Could they be EG proofs?

Still more questions: What is the suffix letter? Any ideas who made the barrel, is it an EG barrel? It has the same length as a standard 7,65 mm or .30 barrel.

Btw I bought the gun from a guy working in the Finnish Army Arsenal about 10 years ago. It was $300-350 back then. I think that the today's price could be between $600-900. JMHO

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Some more photos. Sorry about the quality.

So MAYBE an Artillery Luger - > reworked to 1920 Commercial Alphabet Luger 7,65 mm -> sold to the Finnish Army -> reworked again at some point, dip blued and a new 7,65 barrel installed.

However I wonder why the breech clock was not drilled if the 2nd rework was done in Finland. The lack of the proof mark and the witness mark is not strange because I believe the Finnish Military Arsenal did not stamp those markings at all. Also not always the "SA"-property mark was stamped.

Some other explanation is also possible..

Anyways an interesting Luger even if it is not so valuable.

Have a nice weekend!

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I have to agree - although Krieghoff did reworks, so did Simson - so did scores of small companies, let alone DWM itself.

Besides with the grips and barrel, it could have been worked on by a gunsmith anytime after the 1920's.

Don - $500 for a 7.65mm? Please send me four, you have my address
Did you not see or do you not understand what "=/-" Means?
Big difference in buying and selling price too! Buy for $500 sell for $750!

Every time I give a price , some one has to find fault, I'm really going to stop pricing this time.
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