counterfeit stamps

[Norme]

Hi Don, It's like they say in the real estate business, "it's location, location, location". The EWB markings were applied to the right side grip panel.
Regards, Norm

[George Anderson]

Originally Posted by Norme

Hi Don, It's like they say in the real estate business, "it's location, location, location". The EWB markings were applied to the right side grip panel.
Regards, Norm

As Norm says, location and orientation. The final blow is that the grips are not numbered and the same bogus branding iron used on the grip was used on the stock. The magazine is also bogus.

[sheepherder]

There have also been cases of a 'mechanic'/seller posting pics of his rare Luger here on this forum and inviting comments. His intent is to state in his auction that the Luger was presented to the experts and passed inspection.

It rarely works.

There have also been 'mechanics' who post a question here about how some feature/marking should look, rather than how it does look. Gotta watch out for those guys.

I swear, if I was 30 years younger, I'd be cranking out bogus Totenkopfs, Russian Contracts, and Spandau Lugers by the wheelbarrow full!!!

[Norme]

Originally Posted by Brien

General question,

Is it becoming difficult to trust the provenance of lugers now that it seems you just go on eBay (or wherever) and buy proofing and numbering stamps? I have collected medals and have been burned quite a few times buying fakes. How hard is it to tell if that matching mint condition all matching Krieghoff is th genuine article or a well executed counterfeit.

Obviously research is a factor, but it's hard enough sometimes to differentiate a real iron cross from a good faked one.

How about a luger Made from re-stamped parts etc.

How do you folks deal with this?

I'd hate to find that beautiful piece, drop thousands on it and later find out its a dud. Or it just luck of the draw?

Hi Brien, To return to your question. If you are contemplating "dropping thousands" on a Kreighoff, you should first drop a couple of hundred on the appropriate reference book, in this case "The Kreighoff Parabellum" by Randall Gibson. In it you will find that Kreighoffs have several distinctive features that are virtually impossible to duplicate, short of fabricating a new frame from scratch.
Regards, Norm

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

There have also been cases of a 'mechanic'/seller posting pics of his rare Luger here on this forum and inviting comments. His intent is to state in his auction that the Luger was presented to the experts and passed inspection.

It rarely works.

There have also been 'mechanics' who post a question here about how some feature/marking should look, rather than how it does look. Gotta watch out for those guys.

I swear, if I was 30 years younger, I'd be cranking out bogus Totenkopfs, Russian Contracts, and Spandau Lugers by the wheelbarrow full!!!

Better stick to things that never existed, you can't be accused of fraud for creating a "fantasy", well maybe if you are dumb enough to call it genuine.

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by Norme

Hi Don, It's like they say in the real estate business, "it's location, location, location". The EWB markings were applied to the right side grip panel.
Regards, Norm

That's where I'd seen them, and orientated more or less vertically;
but wonder why the right?

Can't see it in the holster or in the hand.
You'd think some left/right challenged armorer might mark the opposite side occasionally.