Toggle does not fit correctly

Diver6106 · 04-12-2015, 03:57 PM

THAT is a well worn veteran, possibly dug up, or from Louisiana? It needs, no begs for a total breakdown and thorough cleaning with liberal use of WD-40 to push out moisture. Then remove rust & crude with a brass brush, wipe each part down and insure all parts move smoothly, then put it back together and insure pins all seat properly. Check that the receiver axle is pushed in properly with the lip seated. Also insure the coupling link engages the recoil lever properly. I bought a P.38 in similar condition from Louisiana and thought it probably went through Hurricane Katrina, with immersion for several weeks.

Zamex · 04-13-2015, 02:01 AM

Vlim - OK but what is wrong with that pin? How should it look? Can you point me to a photo? The small retaining pin is in place so I dont understand how the pin could move.

To everyone - the gun looks this way only from outside. No need to clean anything, no Katrina survivor, no rust. Inside is in good shape, working and shooting, modified to shoot only 7,62x25 blanks, and WORKS. At least it worked two days ago before a took it partially apart. It is a 1917 made, who knows what it might have seen..

Zamex · 04-13-2015, 02:11 PM

All right.... the pistol works again

I have contacted the previous owner and found out that the toggle pin that is wrong is actually a custom made that prevents a complete closing of the bolt. A blank round would not cycle the autoloading mechanism if fully closed, it was tested.
My problem why the gun did now work was that the coupling link (T shaped) did not catch itself into the recoil lever hooks . I have to do it under a specific angle or what... I saw it when assembling without grips.
Now all is OK again

Thanks for any directions posted before!

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04-12-2015, 03:57 PM	#1
Diver6106 User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mt. Vernon VA Posts: 246 Thanks: 1,436 Thanked 119 Times in 76 Posts	THAT is a well worn veteran, possibly dug up, or from Louisiana? It needs, no begs for a total breakdown and thorough cleaning with liberal use of WD-40 to push out moisture. Then remove rust & crude with a brass brush, wipe each part down and insure all parts move smoothly, then put it back together and insure pins all seat properly. Check that the receiver axle is pushed in properly with the lip seated. Also insure the coupling link engages the recoil lever properly. I bought a P.38 in similar condition from Louisiana and thought it probably went through Hurricane Katrina, with immersion for several weeks.

04-13-2015, 02:01 AM	#2
Zamex New User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Slovakia Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Vlim - OK but what is wrong with that pin? How should it look? Can you point me to a photo? The small retaining pin is in place so I dont understand how the pin could move. To everyone - the gun looks this way only from outside. No need to clean anything, no Katrina survivor, no rust. Inside is in good shape, working and shooting, modified to shoot only 7,62x25 blanks, and WORKS. At least it worked two days ago before a took it partially apart. It is a 1917 made, who knows what it might have seen..

04-13-2015, 02:11 PM	#3
Zamex New User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Slovakia Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	All right.... the pistol works again I have contacted the previous owner and found out that the toggle pin that is wrong is actually a custom made that prevents a complete closing of the bolt. A blank round would not cycle the autoloading mechanism if fully closed, it was tested. My problem why the gun did now work was that the coupling link (T shaped) did not catch itself into the recoil lever hooks . I have to do it under a specific angle or what... I saw it when assembling without grips. Now all is OK again Thanks for any directions posted before!