Tuning for Reliability

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Hi,

You may not reload with fast powders, but if your shooting White Box, you certainly are shooting it.

Sieger

When using factory ammo I'm forced to accept whatever powder they choose to use. If it performs well I'll keep using it.

Magtech ammo seems to use a faster powder than WWBox. It feels different in my hand.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by kurusu

When using factory ammo I'm forced to accept whatever powder they choose to use. If it performs well I'll keep using it.

Magtech ammo seems to use a faster powder than WWBox. It feels different in my hand.

Hi,

While we are on the subject of Magtech, I just ordered some of their commercially available bullets, in another pistol caliber, and can tell you, after weighing some 300 bullets, that their consistency was excellent!!!

Quality control, from this Brazilian firm, seems excellent indeed!!!


Sieger

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Hi,

While we are on the subject of Magtech, I just ordered some of their commercially available bullets, in another pistol caliber, and can tell you, after weighing some 300 bullets, that their consistency was excellent!!!

Quality control, from this Brazilian firm, seems excellent indeed!!!


Sieger

A fellow shooter uses Magtech ammo in is P08 with good accuracy. But recently is rear toggle link developd cracks and he was forced to replace it. I'm not saying it was the ammo but it happened.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by kurusu

A fellow shooter uses Magtech ammo in is P08 with good accuracy. But recently is rear toggle link developd cracks and he was forced to replace it. I'm not saying it was the ammo but it happened.

Hi,

The first usual failure point would be where the rear of the toggle link (holding the firing pin retainer) slaps the rear frame abutment. Is this the failure you are describing?

This slapping, eventually, causes these parts to fail, wounding the Luger, permanently.

With hot ammo, you can actually feel this slap in the web of your hand, as it can be very painful.


Sieger

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Hi,

The first usual failure point would be where the rear of the toggle link (holding the firing pin retainer) slaps the rear frame abutment. Is this the failure you are describing?

This slapping, eventually, causes these parts to fail, wounding the Luger, permanently.
Sieger

No, the cracks developed around the operating knobs. Caused, I believe, to the impact of the knobs on the ramp that breakes the toggle joint.
Very similar to this exemple:
cracked.JPG

Originally Posted by Sieger

With hot ammo, you can actually feel this slap in the web of your hand, as it can be very painful.

Sieger

Disagreable yes. But painful only if you let it slide up on your hand from the previous shot.
Or with people with smaller hands that in order to reach the trigger cannot set it perfectly in the hand web.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by kurusu

No, the cracks developed around the operating knobs. Caused, I believe, to the impact of the knobs on the ramp that breakes the toggle joint.
Very similar to this exemple:
Attachment 43861



Disagreable yes. But painful only if you let it slide up on your hand from the previous shot.
Or with people with smaller hands that in order to reach the trigger cannot set it perfectly in the hand web.

Hi,

This is one heck of a crack!!!

Is the contact point with the slide badly peened?


Sieger

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Hi,

This is one heck of a crack!!!

Is the contact point with the slide badly peened?


Sieger

That picture was just an exemple I found on line, but very similar to what happened.

If by contact point you mean where the knobs hit the ramps, no they were normal for a much used Luger, polished and shiny with blueing gone.

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Hi,

While we are on the subject of Magtech, I just ordered some of their commercially available bullets, in another pistol caliber, and can tell you, after weighing some 300 bullets, that their consistency was excellent!!!

Quality control, from this Brazilian firm, seems excellent indeed!!!


Sieger

I've used their .38 spl wadcutters. They were allright. But my reloads using VV N340 and solid base wadcutters were way better.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by kurusu

When using factory ammo I'm forced to accept whatever powder they choose to use. If it performs well I'll keep using it.

Magtech ammo seems to use a faster powder than WWBox. It feels different in my hand.

Hi,

You are one of the few Luger shooters, I've ever known, to comment regarding the "feel" of a Luger when you are shooting it. It's quite obvious, from the target attached, that you really know how to shoot a Luger.

Yes, I agree, that there is a different feel depending upon the burning rate of the powder used and, obviously, the charge used.

When I'm shooting a really accurate and functional load, the Luger seems to actually become a natural extension of my hand upon firing. This feeling is a bit rare in the shooting world, so its nice to find someone else that can really appreciate it.


Sieger