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Unread 03-24-2014, 08:57 AM   #1
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Or you can use known dimensions...
That sounds the simplest way. Could you please post the dimensions of the Luger artillery barrel, especially the rear sight base dovetail?

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Once I measure dimensions I use mm paper to make large drawing and then just measure angle.
That's pretty much how I do it. I don't use paper, I use plastic sheet. I label the triangles so I can hold them against an unknown angle and see how close they are, then lay out what I think the angle is and cut it out and compare it. These are some I use to set my compound rest and/or set my fixture to mill a feed ramp [first pic]. It works good enough for my work. I don't demand perfection.

I use the plastic template to get my angle, then use the machinist's level to transfer that angle to my fixture [second pic]. This is a Luger feed ramp being cut.

The dovetail dimensions are less than a tenth of an inch in any direction; hard for me to see light under the template. 60º seems to be the closest I can come, so 60º it is.
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That's pretty much how I do it. I don't use paper, I use plastic sheet. I label the triangles so I can hold them against an unknown angle and see how close they are, then lay out what I think the angle is and cut it out and compare it.
Have you had any luck with the CAD yet? It's great when you want to determine an angle, and only have the side dimensions to go by. Just draw it and snap the angle, and you'll get an accurate number without having to do the trigonometry. I have made some templates by printing them and transfering to cardboard or acetate, it works well if you're lazy like me.
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BTW, did you check the Luger blueprints to see what angle is actually specified on the P.08 for the sight dovetail?
If you mean your CD, there's no print for the LP-08 rear sight dovetail.

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Also, Someone recently posted the blueprint of an artillery barrel from a published reference book. I don't remember who did it, or what the subject of the thread was, but if you can find that posting, the angle of the dovetail on an artillery barrel is probably in that drawing...
Ed posted some free-hand sketches & dimensions of a Luger carbine, maybe that is what you mean? I don't see any LP-08 barrel drawings...

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Have you had any luck with the CAD yet?
I have it installed and have tried a few simple images. What I did isn't all that different from PSP. There is a long tutorial and I'll try to print out the simple sample and see if it is in any way intuitive [to me!].
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I have it installed and have tried a few simple images. What I did isn't all that different from PSP. There is a long tutorial and I'll try to print out the simple sample and see if it is in any way intuitive [to me!].
It's actually more like MS Paint to me, simple and intuitive once you learn where the right command buttons are located. I used it every day when I worked for a cabinet factory, and it took just a few days to get the hang of the basics. You'll really see the benefits once you have built up a decent library of drawings. No more anxiety over that sketch you found wadded up in the pocket of a pair of jeans you just washed, or the one that got destroyed when you flipped over a container of quenching oil on the work bench. You just print a new one and go on.
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It's actually more like MS Paint to me, simple and intuitive once you learn where the right command buttons are located.
Right now I can't find any 'delete' button. I have points & lines that need deleting, but the Point/Edit functions don't list any Delete function. (This is in the tutorial). Until I can delete my mistakes, there's not much usefulness to it. I'll play with it a while more. I don't have a lot of patience. I do have lots of envelopes.
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You go to the "Edit" tab at the top, and hit the "Er" button. This will put you in erase mode, so any object you click on will be deleted. You can also do it like Ron suggested: Go to the "Select" tab, select the objects you want to delete, then hit "delete" on your keyboard. After that you hit "enter" to confirm, and the selected objects will be deleted.

You can select multiple objects by "drawing a rectangle" with the mouse (i.e. clicking two corners), but the most useful way is to hold down "Ctrl" and pick the objects by clicking on them. If you select the wrong object, just click on it again and it will be deselected. Once the correct objects are highlighted, hit "delete" and "enter".

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I don't have a lot of patience.
...says the man who is painstakingly building an Artillery Nambu. Yeah, right.
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