What ammo?

[RAY1946]

What a cool thread! German steel vs. British steel vs. Austrian steel; I guess now I am completely confused!

When I bought my two 29/70's(1 in 9mm and the other in 7.65mm) a little over a year ago, I did so with the thought that because they were of recent manufacture they were very probably built of alloys that were far superior to the old WW1 and WW2 Luger alloys. Is this a correct assumption?

I bought my pistols to shoot! Am I wrong in assuming that these "late" Lugers are as safe or safer to shoot than the old WW1 and WW2 wartime Lugers?...........................

[rhuff]

I, personally, would consider modern steel to be far superior to the steel produced in the early to mid 1940s. The production equipment and monitoring systems, plus the quality control has progressed markedly over the years. I do not hesitate to shoot my 06/73 Mauser Parabellum in 9mm.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by rhuff

I, personally, would consider modern steel to be far superior to the steel produced in the early to mid 1940s. The production equipment and monitoring systems, plus the quality control has progressed markedly over the years. I do not hesitate to shoot my 06/73 Mauser Parabellum in 9mm.

Hi,

My question would be whether the original steels were adequate to their intended usage?

The answer is, obviously, yes, when ammo of the correct formula is used in the various period pistols.

Overloaded ammo is, in my opinion, the main cause of Luger parts failure, not some mythical weakness in the original steels used, as hardened with the passage of time. For instance, the current NATO round is loaded some 17% hotter than the standard German Army round of WWI. Firing ammo so overloaded, on a regular basis, through a Luger will, indeed, cause parts failure!!!

Sieger

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by rhuff

I, personally, would consider modern steel to be far superior to the steel produced in the early to mid 1940s. The production equipment and monitoring systems, plus the quality control has progressed markedly over the years. I do not hesitate to shoot my 06/73 Mauser Parabellum in 9mm.

Hi,

I believe I've read here that some of the parts of the Mauser Parabellum series of the 1970's were of cast steel not forged steel.

Sieger

[rhuff]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Hi,

I believe I've read here that some of the parts of the Mauser Parabellum series of the 1970's were of cast steel not forged steel.

Sieger

Many of the modern handgun have parts that are cast steel and MIM, and seem to be holding up well to regular, self defense, and +P loads. It is just better quality material, in my way of thinking, compared to the materials(steels) of the early and mid 20th Century.