K Date Lugers, Faked and Restored - Page 2

Lugerdoc · 04-07-2013, 08:50 AM

Leon, Sorry but the cleaning rod is currently on hold for Mike D, another Forum member. TH

abzug · 05-07-2013, 05:57 PM

Frank, many years ago I owned K Date 734 with two matching mags. It had been carefully rerust blued/ restored.

Frank · 05-07-2013, 07:24 PM

abzug, do you have photos? Do you remember details? Mauser Hump? Set back front sight?

abzug · 05-07-2013, 10:06 PM

Frank, no photos, it was over 40 years ago, I believe (as far as my memory can be relied upon) it had ö37 inspection stamps, Fraktur S toggle and parts marks, frame humps and standard barrel band. I don't remember whether it had the receiver indent. Perhaps the current owner can provide more details if he should happen read this.

Frank · 05-08-2013, 08:30 AM

abzug, thanks!! That's a while ago!!

Sergio Natali · 08-14-2013, 02:43 PM

Next week I'm going to buy a "K" Luger from a reputable gunshop where I've already purchased several good guns. In my gallery there is already a photo of it but next week I'll try to send more photos.

Sergio Natali · 09-28-2013, 08:01 AM

Frank
I assume you are still interested in collecting data, I'm sending three photos of my "K" model s/n 9114, but it's not as nice as the one above, mine looks a bit more used and abused.

Frank · 09-28-2013, 08:21 AM

luger.para, thanks for the K Date data. Your pistol doesn't seem to have the "Mauser Hump", is that true? Could you please send us a picture of the inspection marks on the right side of the receiver? Frank

Sergio Natali · 09-28-2013, 11:39 AM

No Mauser hump-
Ok one of these days I'll take a snap to that girl and I'll post it!

deepdarkwoodsman · 10-28-2012, 08:45 AM

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, how are these guns faked? Does this mean a less expensive luger is converted to a K-Date with the removal and addition of markings and proofs? Or does this mean a gun is created completely from the ground-up, then aged and marked to look like a K-Date?

Thanks,

Doug

Frank · 10-28-2012, 09:52 AM

JDT, I have a data base for Military Mausers only.

Postino, I said I didn't know the number of K-Dates that are left of the original about 11,000. I also said I didn't know the number that are available to collect data. My guess the number of "Fakes" are considerably less than 770.

Deepdark, K Dates are "faked" in many different ways. I doubt if any were built up from ground level as that would be very expensive. I would guess, mostly began as converted less expensive Lugers.

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05-07-2013, 10:06 PM	#4
abzug User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 13 Thanks: 25 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Frank, no photos, it was over 40 years ago, I believe (as far as my memory can be relied upon) it had ö37 inspection stamps, Fraktur S toggle and parts marks, frame humps and standard barrel band. I don't remember whether it had the receiver indent. Perhaps the current owner can provide more details if he should happen read this. Last edited by abzug; 05-07-2013 at 11:29 PM.

08-14-2013, 02:43 PM	#6
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	K date Luger Next week I'm going to buy a "K" Luger from a reputable gunshop where I've already purchased several good guns. In my gallery there is already a photo of it but next week I'll try to send more photos.

09-28-2013, 11:39 AM	#9
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	No Mauser hump- Ok one of these days I'll take a snap to that girl and I'll post it! __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

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05-07-2013, 05:57 PM	#2
abzug User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 13 Thanks: 25 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Frank, many years ago I owned K Date 734 with two matching mags. It had been carefully rerust blued/ restored.

05-07-2013, 07:24 PM	#3
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 166 Times in 87 Posts	abzug, do you have photos? Do you remember details? Mauser Hump? Set back front sight?

05-08-2013, 08:30 AM	#5
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 166 Times in 87 Posts	abzug, thanks!! That's a while ago!!

09-28-2013, 08:21 AM	#8
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 166 Times in 87 Posts	luger.para, thanks for the K Date data. Your pistol doesn't seem to have the "Mauser Hump", is that true? Could you please send us a picture of the inspection marks on the right side of the receiver? Frank

10-28-2012, 08:45 AM	#10
deepdarkwoodsman User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 38 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	Just to satisfy my own curiosity, how are these guns faked? Does this mean a less expensive luger is converted to a K-Date with the removal and addition of markings and proofs? Or does this mean a gun is created completely from the ground-up, then aged and marked to look like a K-Date? Thanks, Doug

10-28-2012, 09:52 AM	#11
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 166 Times in 87 Posts	JDT, I have a data base for Military Mausers only. Postino, I said I didn't know the number of K-Dates that are left of the original about 11,000. I also said I didn't know the number that are available to collect data. My guess the number of "Fakes" are considerably less than 770. Deepdark, K Dates are "faked" in many different ways. I doubt if any were built up from ground level as that would be very expensive. I would guess, mostly began as converted less expensive Lugers.