Luger Target Trigger Modification

[G.T.]

take up isn't undesirable or critical, and as mentioned earlier, probably only a few ounces... probalby need not be addressed for any purpose?? Over travel is probably not wanted.. especially excessive.. I'm pretty sure most lugers don't suffer from this anyway.. most of the ones i have had broke clean at the far end of the trigger travel anyway... But, that being said... Pull weight reduction is probably important, and also a crisp sear break, which probably will require some part modification. ...???... That's where one needs to dwell... two distinct stages are necessary in a Luger.. Not really a two stage trigger... ,,, Want to spend some time, it can be done.. Probably as good as any in a one off situation.. Hard to beat the 1911 in this arena. But, I happen to like Lugers.....Best to all, til...lat'r...GT

[Michael Zeleny]

Originally Posted by G.T.

take up isn't undesirable or critical, and as mentioned earlier, probably only a few ounces... probalby need not be addressed for any purpose?? Over travel is probably not wanted.. especially excessive.. I'm pretty sure most lugers don't suffer from this anyway.. most of the ones i have had broke clean at the far end of the trigger travel anyway... But, that being said... Pull weight reduction is probably important, and also a crisp sear break, which probably will require some part modification. ...???... That's where one needs to dwell... two distinct stages are necessary in a Luger.. Not really a two stage trigger... ,,, Want to spend some time, it can be done.. Probably as good as any in a one off situation.. Hard to beat the 1911 in this arena. But, I happen to like Lugers.....Best to all, til...lat'r...GT

I am not sure what you are saying, but in the terminology of the article under discussion, the mutually bearing surfaces of the trigger bar and the firing pin are cut at an angle so as to interlock, for reasons of safety. If anyone here is foolish and reckless enough to try this modification at home, I'm willing to bet that I can fire his modified Luger without touching its trigger.

[G.T.]

Hi Michael... well, to keep it short.. a'lot can be done in just the sear notch location.. keeping it a 90% as designed, polished, build up.. cut back, shortened, lengthened, what ever suits the unique demands that each Luger would require.. I'm not saying is SHOULD be done.... I'm just saying it could be done... And, of course, a luger with .020" slop between the cannon ass'y and frame would not be a cantidiate for this type of work!!! ...... As mentioned earlier.. it just takes a crap pot full of parts, and time, and money, and all three escape me! ... .. I've seen it before.. in just about evey thing i ever tried to compete in.. ....Best to you Michael, til...lat'r...GT

[Michael Zeleny]

Originally Posted by G.T.

Hi Michael... well, to keep it short.. a'lot can be done in just the sear notch location.. keeping it a 90% as designed, polished, build up.. cut back, shortened, lengthened, what ever suits the unique demands that each Luger would require.. I'm not saying is SHOULD be done.... I'm just saying it could be done... And, of course, a luger with .020" slop between the cannon ass'y and frame would not be a cantidiate for this type of work!!! ...... As mentioned earlier.. it just takes a crap pot full of parts, and time, and money, and all three escape me! ... .. I've seen it before.. in just about evey thing i ever tried to compete in.. ....Best to you Michael, til...lat'r...GT

I won't argue with anything of that, Gerald. All I can say is that the best Luger trigger pull I have experienced is on a factory target pistol with a stock sear geometry. Here is a record I made with a Lyman electronic trigger gauge, of trigger pull averaged over 10 measurements:

• 7.63x25mm Borchardt C93 SN 1774: 2.59kg
• 9mm Para Krieghoff P08 SN 3249: 3.48kg.
• 7.65mm Para W+F P06/1929 National Match SN 59951: 2.64kg
• 7.65mm Para W+F P06/1929 National Match SN 65721: 2.15kg
• 7.65mm Para W+F P06/1929 SN 71644: 3.80kg
• 7.65mm Para W+F P06/1929 SN 77493: 2.57kg
• 9mm Para SIG P49 SN A204931: 2.88kg
• 9mm Para SIG P49 SN A156213: 2.90kg
• 9mm Para SIG P49 SN A107159: 2.75kg
• 9mm Para SIG P49 SN A105553: 2.56kg
• 9mm Para SIG P210-2 SN P74064: 1.86kg
• 9mm Para SIG P210-1 SN P77209: 1.94kg
• 7.65mm Para SIG P210-6HF SN P79103: 1.24kg
• 9mm Para SIG P210-6HF SN P79136: 1.82kg
• 9mm Para SIG P210-6HF SN P79608: 1.20kg
• 9mm Para SIG P210-6HF SN P79609: 1.23kg
• 9mm Para SIG P210-2 SN P79980: 1.67kg
• 9mm Para SIG P210-6 SN P86618: 1.78kg

All are double pull, with a very crisp stage transition (Druckpunkt). You can tell which guns have been resprung.

[G.T.]

Hi Michael, WoW! those are pretty light.. has to be a pretty good unit to repeat those weights.. Anything under three pounds and i really can't tell the diff?? And, don't forget, some guns are just sweet right off of the line.. like a once in a lifetime trap gun .. breaks'em all by itself!....... About four pounds is where i like them... but, I can't see the sights too well anymore anyway.. .. best to you Michael, til...lat'r...GT

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by G.T.

... About four pounds is where i like them...

I haven't tried a Luger trigger job yet, but 4 3/4# on a 1911 style pistol/trigger is what I have always aimed for...(no pun intended)...