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Unread 04-23-2011, 09:47 AM   #1
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I noticed that the asking price for the entire collection of 700+ guns was ~$340k. One could calculate a reasonable offer for this on roughly a per-unit basis. Average price per gun would be less than $500. $20-30k for the 30-some Lugers might just take it? I have some dough to invest, not burn, and payback could indeed be stretched over years for this purpose. If it's over the 20k mark by much, I'd need a partner. Or maybe we could scrape together a consortium of interested collectors on a share basis. The forum could pitch in to establish values of the individual pieces, all could make offers, and proceeds could be divided according to the shares each contributor held, after expenses and a healthy contribution to the forum.
We need a researcher to confirm the offering and clear title to it. We need sound, definitive advice as to the best approach for importing.
The page also said that arrangements could be made to store the guns in Argentina, and mentioned the Argentinian BATF equivalent. This could make the importations easier on a piecemeal basis, depending on what the charges would be from whomever for providing the storage.
This seems too good to be true in a few ways, but as has been pointed out that there is nothing specific so far to condemn this situation, suspicions aside. Maybe we can all ferret out the facts together.
I emailed them the other day, must check for a response, about whether they'd established an asking-price for the Lugers. Maybe I can find a phone contact...I'll report back if I can find out any more.

Found out so far:

Domain name: bronzecannons.net

Registrant Contact:
Jerseydawgs
Anthony Wells ()

Fax:
200 N. El Camino Real
Space# 148
Oceanside, 92054
US

Administrative Contact:
Jerseydawgs
Anthony Wells (tonywells82@hotmail.com)
+63.9273451812
Fax: none
200 N. El Camino Real
Space# 148
Oceanside, 92054
US

Technical Contact:
Jerseydawgs
Anthony Wells (tonywells82@hotmail.com)
+63.9273451812
Fax: none
200 N. El Camino Real
Space# 148
Oceanside, 92054
US

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Creation date: 15 Aug 2004 02:58:00
Expiration date: 15 Aug 2011 02:58:00



In response to my email mentioned above, I received:

Hello,

Please make your offer for the Luger collection so I can see if Carlos will
accept it or not.

Sincerely,
Tony


Contact phone for domain is in the Philippines, registration address Riverside, Ca.

I could email him back immediately and play it straight, but will wait for input from forum. Who's thinkin' what about this?

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Unread 04-23-2011, 11:22 AM   #2
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This seems too good to be true in a few ways, but as has been pointed out that there is nothing specific so far to condemn this situation, suspicions aside.
Here is a specific fact. If this were a legitimate offering, the "owner" could have disposed of it with a single phone call to Rock Island Auction, James D. Julia, or Hermann Historica. In either one of these venues this "collection" would have grossed over a million dollars, preempting the need to solicit bids online. "If it seems to be too good to be true, it is."
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Unread 04-23-2011, 11:50 AM   #3
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Hi David, I've been in the import/export business for over 50 years. Although I seldom agree with my dear friend Michael, he's 100% right on this one. Regards, Norm
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