1918 P08 Erfurt, not sure what exactly it is, Revision-commission marked maybe?

John Sabato · 03-24-2011, 02:15 PM

I am quite knowledgeable in things related to metalworking and manufacturing. I cannot see how this "scrubbing" could be accomplished and at the same time restore the top surface of the toggle to it's original shape without signficant labor and cost. If the objective here was to produce a Faux Krieghoff, I might be able to accept the level of effort, but in this case, this pistol is not in that class of collectibles that would justify it IMHO. I am puzzled why anyone would do such a thing to a gun in this condition.

Removing and replacing enough metal so that there is little or no trace of the manufacturer's stamp would require some fairly sophisticated welding, and refinishing, and certainly would require the toggle to be heat-treated to the proper hardness to withstand the impulse of the toggle train during the firing cycle... it just doesn't make sense to me...

Anyone got a serious WAG for theory?

Thorgrimm_the_Vain · 03-24-2011, 03:19 PM

It appears that the front toggle is not perfectly flat. It is dished from front to rear. Odd.

sheepherder · 03-24-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorgrimm_the_Vain

It appears that the front toggle is not perfectly flat. It is dished from front to rear. Odd.

If it wasn't for the Erfurt proof, one might almost think someone had found a DWM toggle with the correct number and substituted it...After grinding down the DWM script...Of course, that's not the case here, since it does have the Erfurt proof...

...But it does raise questions...

03-24-2011, 02:15 PM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,157 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,311 Times in 1,099 Posts	I am quite knowledgeable in things related to metalworking and manufacturing. I cannot see how this "scrubbing" could be accomplished and at the same time restore the top surface of the toggle to it's original shape without signficant labor and cost. If the objective here was to produce a Faux Krieghoff, I might be able to accept the level of effort, but in this case, this pistol is not in that class of collectibles that would justify it IMHO. I am puzzled why anyone would do such a thing to a gun in this condition. Removing and replacing enough metal so that there is little or no trace of the manufacturer's stamp would require some fairly sophisticated welding, and refinishing, and certainly would require the toggle to be heat-treated to the proper hardness to withstand the impulse of the toggle train during the firing cycle... it just doesn't make sense to me... Anyone got a serious WAG for theory? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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03-24-2011, 03:19 PM	#2
Thorgrimm_the_Vain User Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It appears that the front toggle is not perfectly flat. It is dished from front to rear. Odd.