Fleur de Lys marked lugers

Ron Wood · 03-14-2011, 03:54 PM

I have no idea about the origin of the Lugers or stock. It is possible that they are a vanity item commissioned at the turn of the century. There were French custom gunsmiths that turned out elaborate engraving and possibly die stamped embellishments on all types of firearms. It is also possible that they were made much more recently.

The case is vintage but has either been retrofitted for the guns a la George's H&H case experience, or has been restored. It is not conceivable to me that the material could be that crisp given the wear on the opened edges of the case. The engraved metal fleur de lys on the interior of the case lid looks like a quite recent addition.

Norme · 03-14-2011, 04:33 PM

I can't speak to the authenticity of the guns, but it's my understanding that no fleur de lis marked Lugers were produced by DWM. However, whoever fabricated this set did a beautiful job, they are superb! As to the fitted case, I can speak with some authority. George is quite correct, as I know from first hand experience. In the Antique and Estate Jewelry business, retrofitting the interiors of vintage jewelry boxes is commonplace. In fact there is a lively market for old boxes, particularly the very distinctive red and gold ones marked "Cartier". Regards, Norm

03-14-2011, 03:54 PM	#1
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 1,124 Thanked 5,287 Times in 1,728 Posts	I have no idea about the origin of the Lugers or stock. It is possible that they are a vanity item commissioned at the turn of the century. There were French custom gunsmiths that turned out elaborate engraving and possibly die stamped embellishments on all types of firearms. It is also possible that they were made much more recently. The case is vintage but has either been retrofitted for the guns a la George's H&H case experience, or has been restored. It is not conceivable to me that the material could be that crisp given the wear on the opened edges of the case. The engraved metal fleur de lys on the interior of the case lid looks like a quite recent addition. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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03-14-2011, 04:33 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	I can't speak to the authenticity of the guns, but it's my understanding that no fleur de lis marked Lugers were produced by DWM. However, whoever fabricated this set did a beautiful job, they are superb! As to the fitted case, I can speak with some authority. George is quite correct, as I know from first hand experience. In the Antique and Estate Jewelry business, retrofitting the interiors of vintage jewelry boxes is commonplace. In fact there is a lively market for old boxes, particularly the very distinctive red and gold ones marked "Cartier". Regards, Norm