Norinco 9mm

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by Mauser George

Sieger:

"This thread regarding 9mm Parabellum seems to be going in the wrong direction, as it appears you are more interested in arguing, and you and only you know all the facts."

I have sited original sources on the subject (in black and white). So far, you haven't sited anything, though you claim that there is a source. We are not arguing. I'm trying to set the record straight regarding the myth of the "hot load" requirement. I have sited my sources, please site yours.

"It is for that reason that I am not going any further as I respect Ed Tinker as he has made his feeling known already regarding this thread and the direction it is heading."

When faced with facts, no argument exists for the "hot load" theory. If there are facts to the contrary, I'd be perfectly willing to read them and discuss them with anyone.

"What I said is correct and factual as it is in black and white as I indicated previously."

I have asked for a site of your 1,400 fps 124 gr German load. You have not responded in "black and white" or otherwise. I think a reference to any of the modern widely published Reloading Guides will clearly show you that it is not possible to load a 124 gr. bullet, to 1,400 fps, in a 9mm Parabellum case, at any safe pressure level. In fact, it would be EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TO DO SO!

"Good luck and the best in your Luger collecting."

I have collected and shot Lugers for the last 30 years. It has been a very enjoyable and interesting hobby for me. Thank you for your best wishes!!

Regards,

George
Upstate New York

Have a pleasent and safe day, and I hope the weather, there, is better than it is here.

Sieger

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Have a pleasent and safe day, and I hope the weather, there, is better than it is here.

Sieger

15ºF here today; 12 inches of snow on the ground.

Where's this "global warming" the alarmists are warning everyone about???

Our local weather station said that last year was the coldest in 50 years...and the year before was second coldest...

I think 2010 is going to be the new winner...

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by postino

15ºF here today; 12 inches of snow on the ground.

Where's this "global warming" the alarmists are warning everyone about???

Our local weather station said that last year was the coldest in 50 years...and the year before was second coldest...

I think 2010 is going to be the new winner...

Dear Postino

You know, the fellow in bed in your avatar must have shot some of that mythical 1,400 fps 124 grain German Army ammo through his Luger. Just look at what it has done to his hand, eyes and face. Ha!! By the way, the byline in German says "Will you be next?"

Here, in NYC, we are suppose to have a 0 degree Fahrenheit night. It's not that cold now, so I doubt it will get down that low.

Global Warming Theory, Ha!

Hope all is well there!!


Sieger

[alvin]

Originally Posted by postino

Where's this "global warming" the alarmists are warning everyone about???

Heard of a country named "Tuvalu"? If not heard before, that's normal, it's not easy to find her on map.

People of Tuvalu said "All 6 billion people on Earth should applogize to us!" Why? global warming raises ocean level and the country submerges in water more frequently.

Today is Tuvalu, tommorrow will be New York.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by alvin

Heard of a country named "Tuvalu"? If not heard before, that's normal, it's not easy to find her on map.

People of Tuvalu said "All 6 billion people on Earth should applogize to us!" Why? global warming raises ocean level and the country submerges in water more frequently.

Today is Tuvalu, tommorrow will be New York.

Dear Alvin:

Actually, I'm quite "Green" and have been since the mid 70's. I feel that our environment is a precious comodity that should be preserved and protected

In my High School Earth Science class, in 1974, we were taught that the earth was entering into a new ice age, and that we, or more likely our children, would suffer from starvation due to low crop yeild. Adequate evidence was offered through a study of the ice layers at the North Pole.

The Germans have a much more interesting question for Al Gore to answer. If carbon emissions are causing our ice caps to melt, then why are the ice caps on Mars also melting at the same approximate rate (adjusted for its distance from the sun, etc.)? This study was done by the world famous Max Plank Institute in Berlin.

My personal, non-scientific, view is that the sun varies in its energy output over time. We seem to be in a period of higher energy output now. This would seem logical.

Sieger