hand me down 1913 ERFURT Luger Please Help ID

John Sabato · 07-22-2009, 11:05 AM

The rust and pitting is just heartbreaking... no doubt from improper storage over the years...

I would seriously consider this gun a candidate for "restoration"... not something I normally do, but this gun's finish has beem decimated, and will only get worse.

It appears that the gun has an unrelieved sear, and no holdopen device... so it was never modified to include these features.

Welcome to the Lugerforum...

You should do a detailed disassembly of the gun and thorough cleaning at the very least to stop the active rust and pitting. The gun is not matching numbers since parts are visible in your photos that do not have the same last two digits of the frame serial number... so it is a "shooter" class gun and not a collectible...

Clean her up and enjoy her... I'll bet she shoots just fine when you do.

wskunz · 07-22-2009, 11:14 AM

Thanks for the reply.

Yes it is unfortunate about the storage, also found in the shoebox in equal condition was a pre WW2 Browning HP, a Walther PPK in a presentation case, a pre WW2 Walther P38 and a couple of S&W break open revolvers, one with a trigger stub with just a button for a trigger no trigger guard.

I am going to let a gunsmith clean them up and test them before I begin firing them, they are all shooters and not collectibles because of the surface condition. They appear to have excellent bore conditions.

Bill

07-22-2009, 11:05 AM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,157 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,311 Times in 1,099 Posts	The rust and pitting is just heartbreaking... no doubt from improper storage over the years... I would seriously consider this gun a candidate for "restoration"... not something I normally do, but this gun's finish has beem decimated, and will only get worse. It appears that the gun has an unrelieved sear, and no holdopen device... so it was never modified to include these features. Welcome to the Lugerforum... You should do a detailed disassembly of the gun and thorough cleaning at the very least to stop the active rust and pitting. The gun is not matching numbers since parts are visible in your photos that do not have the same last two digits of the frame serial number... so it is a "shooter" class gun and not a collectible... Clean her up and enjoy her... I'll bet she shoots just fine when you do. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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07-22-2009, 11:14 AM	#2
wskunz New User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the reply. Yes it is unfortunate about the storage, also found in the shoebox in equal condition was a pre WW2 Browning HP, a Walther PPK in a presentation case, a pre WW2 Walther P38 and a couple of S&W break open revolvers, one with a trigger stub with just a button for a trigger no trigger guard. I am going to let a gunsmith clean them up and test them before I begin firing them, they are all shooters and not collectibles because of the surface condition. They appear to have excellent bore conditions. Bill