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Flintlock2016 · 04-02-2016, 02:56 PM

Hi Alanint
As it stands prior to the 8th April 2016, the deactivation process does not involve welding the magazine. The pistol can be cocked, magazine can be removed and the gun dry fired.
After April 8th. the magazine will be welded in situ, if there is no magazine in the gun a steel bar will be welded in its place. The gun will then be unable to dry fire etc.
This apples to any gun sold after this date, even if it had gone under a deactivation process prior to the 8th.
Once a gun is sold after the 8th. the welding takes place, but if the gun is then sold again there is no need to have it redone, because the welding process needs only to be done once.
If you don't sell the gun after the 8th. there is no need to have it welded it's legal for you to keep it in a pre 8th. April state.
Hope this explains it.
Cheers
John

alanint · 04-02-2016, 05:19 PM

So the idea is to slowly completely destroy the pistols out there, as sooner or later everything changes hands.

Are there provisions to avoid this in the case of an inheritance?

rhuff · 04-02-2016, 07:27 PM

If one had a Luger that had already undergone the first mutalation, and was going to have to have the mag welded into the frame, one could remove the mag follower and spring before the welding, and still be able to dry fire it......but not field strip it. What a shame!!

Flintlock2016 · 04-03-2016, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint

So the idea is to slowly completely destroy the pistols out there, as sooner or later everything changes hands.

Are there provisions to avoid this in the case of an inheritance?

It doesn't look like it. The act states any guns that are "sold, battered or given away" after April 8th must have the new deactivation.

Sergio Natali · 04-06-2016, 04:09 AM

Honestly reading the posts of this thread hurts me...
I can only hope that it won't be like that also in the rest of Europe...

I realize that from the States these words will sound strange, to say he least, but in my opnion the years we are living now remind me of the collapse of the Ancient Roman Empire, when the Romans slowly became more and more softened and allowed people coming from outside the Empire (uncivilized barbarians) to take key places in their society, in their Army and so on.
Now day by day we are slowly getting invaded by people from North Africa and Middle East with a culture that is clashing agains ours, and while our European leaders discuss about nonsensical things like the correct size the cucumbers shoud have (I'm not joking), or like banning the ownership of guns to honest people and so on these barbarians a day not too far away will tell us what do do, what to wear, what to eat, what to pray...

DavidJayUden · 04-06-2016, 11:24 AM

Sergio:
I can assure you that your concerns are shared throughout the USA. Maybe not with the strength that they deserve, but we too see, and share, your foreboding. To me it is not a question of IF something happens to cause this house of cards to fall, but WHEN.
dju

04-06-2016, 04:09 AM	#5
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,086 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Honestly reading the posts of this thread hurts me... I can only hope that it won't be like that also in the rest of Europe... I realize that from the States these words will sound strange, to say he least, but in my opnion the years we are living now remind me of the collapse of the Ancient Roman Empire, when the Romans slowly became more and more softened and allowed people coming from outside the Empire (uncivilized barbarians) to take key places in their society, in their Army and so on. Now day by day we are slowly getting invaded by people from North Africa and Middle East with a culture that is clashing agains ours, and while our European leaders discuss about nonsensical things like the correct size the cucumbers shoud have (I'm not joking), or like banning the ownership of guns to honest people and so on these barbarians a day not too far away will tell us what do do, what to wear, what to eat, what to pray... __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list. Last edited by Sergio Natali; 04-06-2016 at 12:55 PM. Reason: misprinted a word, sorry

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04-02-2016, 02:56 PM	#1
Flintlock2016 User Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 35 Thanks: 35 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Alanint As it stands prior to the 8th April 2016, the deactivation process does not involve welding the magazine. The pistol can be cocked, magazine can be removed and the gun dry fired. After April 8th. the magazine will be welded in situ, if there is no magazine in the gun a steel bar will be welded in its place. The gun will then be unable to dry fire etc. This apples to any gun sold after this date, even if it had gone under a deactivation process prior to the 8th. Once a gun is sold after the 8th. the welding takes place, but if the gun is then sold again there is no need to have it redone, because the welding process needs only to be done once. If you don't sell the gun after the 8th. there is no need to have it welded it's legal for you to keep it in a pre 8th. April state. Hope this explains it. Cheers John

04-02-2016, 05:19 PM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	So the idea is to slowly completely destroy the pistols out there, as sooner or later everything changes hands. Are there provisions to avoid this in the case of an inheritance?

04-02-2016, 07:27 PM	#3
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,315 Thanks: 2,757 Thanked 999 Times in 734 Posts	If one had a Luger that had already undergone the first mutalation, and was going to have to have the mag welded into the frame, one could remove the mag follower and spring before the welding, and still be able to dry fire it......but not field strip it. What a shame!!

04-06-2016, 11:24 AM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Sergio: I can assure you that your concerns are shared throughout the USA. Maybe not with the strength that they deserve, but we too see, and share, your foreboding. To me it is not a question of IF something happens to cause this house of cards to fall, but WHEN. dju