"The Ammo Shortage Of 2013" - Page 2

alvin · 06-20-2013, 06:40 PM

Serbian PRVI is supposed to be good. I consumed many PRVI rounds in 7,63x25mm (brass cased, don't know their configuration on 9x19mm), never had a problem. No experience on Tula. Is it Russian steel cased ammo?

lew1 · 06-20-2013, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin

Serbian PRVI is supposed to be good. I consumed many PRVI rounds in 7,63x25mm (brass cased, don't know their configuration on 9x19mm), never had a problem. No experience on Tula. Is it Russian steel cased ammo?

The specs on the box say Tula is steel cased and Russian.

policeluger · 06-20-2013, 06:43 PM

Prvi is good ammo, use it here in the shop from time to time....

alvin · 06-20-2013, 09:11 PM

Back some time ago, I bought a few boxes of Russian "Wolf" 7,62x39mm steel cased cartridges, did an experiment and found Wolf was very sensitive to humidity.

One box of DWM 403 made in 1930s (20 rounds) and one box of newly made Wolf (also 20 rounds) were left in basement for a month in summer. Later in range, DWM still fired without any issue, but 4 rounds from Wolf box (20%) misfired from SKS. Obviously, there is a big qualify difference. But, that's Wolf, not Tula.

cdmech · 06-20-2013, 09:26 PM

I've been using the web site www.ammoseek.com lately and have found some good deals on primers and loaded ammunition. It's a search engine for ammo. Check often because it updates every couple hours.
Marc

alanint · 06-20-2013, 09:30 PM

Besides "ammoseek", I would also recommend "gunbot" for ammo and components.

http://www.gunbot.net/

rhuff · 06-21-2013, 03:42 PM

I purchase most of my reloading components(primers and powder) in bulk from Powder Valley. They are so out of everything, and backodered, that 2 months ago they stopped accepting any backorders. They are 1-2 months behind on shipping out the orders that they have product to fill.

I got bit with the first election of Obummer as far as reloading components. That taught me a lesson. Once things settled down, and prices got back to normal, I made a couple of sizable orders from PV, and also my bullet suppliers. When the crap occurred again after the last election, I was/am in great shape.

I may be "senior", but I can still learn!!

lugersrkewl · 06-21-2013, 08:40 PM

I found a heck of a deal all matching original mosin carbine with bayonet in 762x54 today. No 9mm within 200 miles though

sheepherder · 12-13-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lugersrkewl

I found a heck of a deal all matching original mosin carbine with bayonet in 762x54 today. No 9mm within 200 miles though

Skye -

I missed this when it was posted...I'm always looking at/fabricating old carbines (I have an 1891 Argentine carbine being fabricated this weekend)...How long is that Nagant barrel???

Ron Smith · 06-22-2013, 09:59 AM

I was in a local shop recently, when a very well known dealer came in making his usual monthly rounds of the gun shops. He had a very lucrative shop in another town, but has since sold it and now travels the gun show circuit in the western half of the country.

I over heard him telling the shop owner that he loved the anti-gun scare because he could double and often triple his money by selling at the shows.

As I said, this dealer is well known. Well known for not being the most honest, or scrupulous dealer in the state. He proceeded to brag about how he and a friend had worked out an understanding with a large ammo distributor to be at the top of the list for ammo and primers. Mainly .22 LR, 9mm, 40 S&W, .223 ammo, any and all primers he could get.

He specifically stated that he could get a 500 round brick of .22 LR for $35 to $40 on a good day , and sell everything he could get for $150 a brick at gun shows. He claimed he would sell out within the first few hours of the show.

Paranoia and unfounded rumors are a powerful money maker for those who use it to their advantage.

Curly1 · 06-22-2013, 10:52 AM

Paranoia and unfounded rumors, AND STOOPID PEEPS, are a powerful money maker for those who use it to their advantage.

alvin · 06-22-2013, 12:32 PM

Visited another store. They had some good stuffs. The price of 20-round PMC .223REM is still high, $8.95 per box. There are a few Ruger Ranch rifles. The NIB Ruger with blue steel barrel and black synthetic stock configuration looks very pretty, asking $709... almost returned to normal level. The only drawback is 10-round magazines. No solution for that. Preban Ruger magazines are rare here.

sheepherder · 06-22-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alvin

There are a few Ruger Ranch rifles. The NIB Ruger with blue steel barrel and black synthetic stock configuration looks very pretty, asking $709... almost returned to normal level. The only drawback is 10-round magazines. No solution for that.

Is that a variation of the Mini-14 in .223??? I have one of those in my safe (but not the 'ranch'), bought new 20+ years ago, wood stock, unfired...I bought it to make a bullpup out of it, haven't got to it yet...I think the box is still in the attic somewhere...If the squirrels haven't got to it...

I did buy a couple 20 rd mags for it; cheap steel ones...I might even have a 30 somewhere...[see note on squirrels above]...

I was somewhat disappointed on the 'cheapness' of it (in comparison with an M14/M1A)...

alvin · 06-22-2013, 12:54 PM

Yes. Ranch Rifle is a variation of Mini-14. Much better than those newly made M1 carbine from Auto Ordnance.

lugersrkewl · 12-13-2013, 11:49 AM

M44

20 1/4"
51.4 cm.

K.Wilhelm · 12-13-2013, 04:56 PM

Around here the primers have pretty much come back as well as most of the ammo, except .380 and .22 LR. Since I can make my own (other than .22), it hasn't been as much of a hardship for me. But I'm still more than ready for it to be over. KW

SteveM · 12-13-2013, 07:11 PM

Herters brass loaded ammo that I looked at the other day at Cabelas was made by S&B. Said so on the box so I figure that it is probably pretty good ammo.

Geo99 · 12-13-2013, 11:42 PM

It really annoys me that I can't find any 32ACP for my Mauser 1914 to shoot. I mean who shoots 32ACP anymore? I used to get it for $13-14/box shipped before all this nonsense, but I didn't save it.

Patronen · 12-14-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Geo99

It really annoys me that I can't find any 32ACP for my Mauser 1914 to shoot. I mean who shoots 32ACP anymore? I used to get it for $13-14/box shipped before all this nonsense, but I didn't save it.

Welcome to the world of reloading. People are out there now today reloading for calibers 10 years ago they never would have dreamed of bothering with .25,32,380? etc. Pretty hard to reload for a .22LR if not darn right impossble so hence the further frustration out there.

rhuff · 12-14-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Geo99

It really annoys me that I can't find any 32ACP for my Mauser 1914 to shoot. I mean who shoots 32ACP anymore? .

With the big push in purchasing CCW/pocket pistols, most of the ammo used in these small caliber handguns has been bought up. There are a number of the new pocket handguns in 32ACP caliber. i.e. Berreta, Keltec, Autuga, etc.

06-22-2013, 09:59 AM	#10
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	I was in a local shop recently, when a very well known dealer came in making his usual monthly rounds of the gun shops. He had a very lucrative shop in another town, but has since sold it and now travels the gun show circuit in the western half of the country. I over heard him telling the shop owner that he loved the anti-gun scare because he could double and often triple his money by selling at the shows. As I said, this dealer is well known. Well known for not being the most honest, or scrupulous dealer in the state. He proceeded to brag about how he and a friend had worked out an understanding with a large ammo distributor to be at the top of the list for ammo and primers. Mainly .22 LR, 9mm, 40 S&W, .223 ammo, any and all primers he could get. He specifically stated that he could get a 500 round brick of .22 LR for $35 to $40 on a good day , and sell everything he could get for $150 a brick at gun shows. He claimed he would sell out within the first few hours of the show. Paranoia and unfounded rumors are a powerful money maker for those who use it to their advantage. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-22-2013, 10:52 AM	#11
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,256 Thanks: 126 Thanked 718 Times in 375 Posts	Paranoia and unfounded rumors, AND STOOPID PEEPS, are a powerful money maker for those who use it to their advantage. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

12-13-2013, 04:56 PM	#16
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 111 Times in 66 Posts	Shortages Around here the primers have pretty much come back as well as most of the ammo, except .380 and .22 LR. Since I can make my own (other than .22), it hasn't been as much of a hardship for me. But I'm still more than ready for it to be over. KW __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group

12-13-2013, 11:42 PM	#18
Geo99 User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whidbey Island WA Posts: 400 Thanks: 103 Thanked 127 Times in 75 Posts	It really annoys me that I can't find any 32ACP for my Mauser 1914 to shoot. I mean who shoots 32ACP anymore? I used to get it for $13-14/box shipped before all this nonsense, but I didn't save it. __________________ "Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie, until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers

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06-20-2013, 06:40 PM	#1
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Serbian PRVI is supposed to be good. I consumed many PRVI rounds in 7,63x25mm (brass cased, don't know their configuration on 9x19mm), never had a problem. No experience on Tula. Is it Russian steel cased ammo?

06-20-2013, 06:43 PM	#3
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Prvi is good ammo, use it here in the shop from time to time....

06-20-2013, 09:11 PM	#4
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Back some time ago, I bought a few boxes of Russian "Wolf" 7,62x39mm steel cased cartridges, did an experiment and found Wolf was very sensitive to humidity. One box of DWM 403 made in 1930s (20 rounds) and one box of newly made Wolf (also 20 rounds) were left in basement for a month in summer. Later in range, DWM still fired without any issue, but 4 rounds from Wolf box (20%) misfired from SKS. Obviously, there is a big qualify difference. But, that's Wolf, not Tula.

06-20-2013, 09:26 PM	#5
cdmech User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 218 Thanks: 87 Thanked 134 Times in 55 Posts	I've been using the web site www.ammoseek.com lately and have found some good deals on primers and loaded ammunition. It's a search engine for ammo. Check often because it updates every couple hours. Marc

06-20-2013, 09:30 PM	#6
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Besides "ammoseek", I would also recommend "gunbot" for ammo and components. http://www.gunbot.net/

06-21-2013, 03:42 PM	#7
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,315 Thanks: 2,756 Thanked 999 Times in 734 Posts	I purchase most of my reloading components(primers and powder) in bulk from Powder Valley. They are so out of everything, and backodered, that 2 months ago they stopped accepting any backorders. They are 1-2 months behind on shipping out the orders that they have product to fill. I got bit with the first election of Obummer as far as reloading components. That taught me a lesson. Once things settled down, and prices got back to normal, I made a couple of sizable orders from PV, and also my bullet suppliers. When the crap occurred again after the last election, I was/am in great shape. I may be "senior", but I can still learn!!

06-22-2013, 12:32 PM	#12
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Visited another store. They had some good stuffs. The price of 20-round PMC .223REM is still high, $8.95 per box. There are a few Ruger Ranch rifles. The NIB Ruger with blue steel barrel and black synthetic stock configuration looks very pretty, asking $709... almost returned to normal level. The only drawback is 10-round magazines. No solution for that. Preban Ruger magazines are rare here.

06-22-2013, 12:54 PM	#14
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Yes. Ranch Rifle is a variation of Mini-14. Much better than those newly made M1 carbine from Auto Ordnance.

12-13-2013, 11:49 AM	#15
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	M44 20 1/4" 51.4 cm.

12-13-2013, 07:11 PM	#17
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Herters brass loaded ammo that I looked at the other day at Cabelas was made by S&B. Said so on the box so I figure that it is probably pretty good ammo.