Gestapo = SS = Probably fake?

Jim Keenan · 07-13-2003, 03:26 PM

I think it suffices to say that some dealers are noted for inventing colorful names for quite ordinary guns so as to be able to get more money for them. "Black Widow" and other names serve only to extract a few more bucks from the unwary.

Whether actual documentation of use by a specific German organization would add or detract from the value is beside the point. That documentation rarely exists, and the name alone means nothing and adds no value.

In addition, various markings associated with certain organizations have almost all proven fraudulent, added in this country for the same reason, to increase the price.

The same goes for prominent names engraved or otherwise added to pistols. There are known presentation pistols and they generally bring a premium. But prices drop to near zero on garbage like a Walther PP I saw with "Herman Georing" electric pencilled on the slide.

Another jewel is a PP engraved with the name "Adolf Hitler", made by Manurhin; the sucker who bought it won't admit he was taken and is still trying to tell people that Manurhin made Walther pistols during WWII.

Jim

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07-13-2003, 03:26 PM	#20
Jim Keenan User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I think it suffices to say that some dealers are noted for inventing colorful names for quite ordinary guns so as to be able to get more money for them. "Black Widow" and other names serve only to extract a few more bucks from the unwary. Whether actual documentation of use by a specific German organization would add or detract from the value is beside the point. That documentation rarely exists, and the name alone means nothing and adds no value. In addition, various markings associated with certain organizations have almost all proven fraudulent, added in this country for the same reason, to increase the price. The same goes for prominent names engraved or otherwise added to pistols. There are known presentation pistols and they generally bring a premium. But prices drop to near zero on garbage like a Walther PP I saw with "Herman Georing" electric pencilled on the slide. Another jewel is a PP engraved with the name "Adolf Hitler", made by Manurhin; the sucker who bought it won't admit he was taken and is still trying to tell people that Manurhin made Walther pistols during WWII. Jim