Interesting Old .22 Luger Thread

[sheepherder]

I've always thought that the pic in Ed Tinkers' album of a Navy looked proportionately almost perfect...



I don't know which variation it is, or if the barrel is 1500mm...But the taper looks just right...

[Rick W.]

Rich,

Thanks for the dwg. I never had one. Someone measured the numbers for me at the start and stop of taper on a slender barrel, then eventually got a beater or two.

This is kinda what does it for me, always thought it was a 4 3/4 type.

Barrel taper is a subjective thing. Sometimes in comes into play just for functionality, sometimes just for looks, if can do both..........tis ok.

Yeah, that Navy is a nice one. I am hoping that the 22/30 project will be on that platform, maybe longer or shorter........or maybe otherwise........

I was trying to remember..........navy/ arty, 4"..........650/550 over the taper between the bulges; nominal figures of course.

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[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Rick W.

I am hoping that the 22/30 project will be on that platform, maybe longer or shorter........or maybe otherwise........

Are you considering a .22 barrel on a 30 cartridge Luger conversion???

Some time back, I did a pair of 6" barrels...One was a 9mm thinned to M1900 taper [elongated to 6"], and the other was a 30 cal with a 9mm taper [elongated to 6"]...

I hadn't finished the front sight base on the one barrel because I didn't know the heigth, but someone [George/Norme?] posted that it was the same as the artillery base...I haven't got that far yet...maybe never...

[Rick W.]

The 22/30 Luger or thereabouts has always been one of the fires in the distance here. It gets tended to, then forgotten, etc etc. I like a Luger that shoots flat and is...............different, catered to me, the dreamer. Even considered 6mm and 25cal off the 30 Luger or a close clone.

To experience something I read about as a kid growing up in the gun rags, tis always on the mind; only way for me to do it........is to do it myself.

I am still crawdaddying around between a 223 A.I. reamer and cut off dies(A.I. has less body taper to effect the cut off sizing, versus the 40 degree shoulder; or just bite the bullet and buy the custom ground reamer from PTG and make my own dies. I have a little fear of the body taper of the cutoff used old dies routine. I may chamber up some scrap to 222 or 223 and see how the taper plays sometime. Not been able to do much lately, so it lingers on the mind.

The 22 Luger, Lowenstein, 22/30Luger just necks to 22 cal, and keeps the angle the same, hence the slightly shorter neck. I would like to keep the longer neck of the parent, but changes have to occur in the basics.

I have a nightie that the lighter the barrel, the better chance for function without going abbynormal in pressures/bullet weight. Hence my talk about certain tapers.

I have the barrel takeoff's here in the corner, but one has to have a plan I have been told. I have blasted off on pure conjecture and the result was most times about that, so gotta get the plan together. The chambering is the key item to me right now, how to.......

I have a lot of barrels with the more slender taper, all homebrew, made on my old Atlas lathe. I have two tailstocks, one for nice/nice and one for offset tapering, and the bed is long enough for both to reside during tapering.

I am hesitant to show this old mule some, but here it is. This is a Luger that I shoot regularly, a 7.65x19 wildcat(30/9mmx19 or 7.65x19 as ESKO called it). Shoots well and the various parts/additions like the stainless toggle in the 18 receiver and scope mount plays. Iron sight on front is simplistic, to me only for a bit of look, I always use the scope or red dot with this one.

Barrel is now..........10" or so..........650 to 450 nominally. Was a 14" or so earlier in life, but change comes and goes here.

Some things are never done. Some barrels remain lathe turned without any polishing for years, I always think I will change out. You will notice the thicker shoulder on this one, gives me room to rechamber/reuse. I can make a 55 gal drum failly nervous at 10 yards with it..........



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[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Rick W.

I can make a 55 gal drum failly nervous at 10 yards with it...

That's 10-ring shooting in my neighborhood...